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  3. Trig0r

    Finally, an upgrade..

    Well after many, many years running an i7-3770, I've finally decided an upgrade was due... Gone from an i7-3770S, 16Gb RAM, and an Asus Gene V board to an AMD Ryzen 5 1600AF, Asrock Steel Legend board and 32Gb RAM.. Keeping the case, GPU (RX580 8Gb) and everything else, just deciding if I should spring for an m.2 drive or not.. See how long it lasts me, given I dont game much and my monitor is only 1080, think I should be fine for a while yet.
  4. schoondoggy

    HPE Microserver Gen10 Plus

    Good overview: https://www.servethehome.com/hpe-proliant-microserver-gen10-plus-v-gen10-hardware-overview/
  5. Section 8 has some interesting observations: https://www.usenix.org/system/files/fast20-maneas.pdf
  6. XeonUnicorn

    HP Proliant ML350p G8 Watercooling!

    Cool the results of that would be good reading and helpful to clarify the relationship of the pwm and "tach" signal. Some testing of fans 1 and 4 pwm signal against the ram temp sensing which can be seen in speedfan would also help to confirm if it is a separate pwm from fans 2 and 3.
  7. HJB

    HP Proliant ML350p G8 Watercooling!

    Thanks, I'll put the good old osciloscope on those leads with the original Fans to confirm their behaviour.
  8. XeonUnicorn

    HP Proliant ML350p G8 Watercooling!

    A helpful way to think of it is like this: Black - ground Red - 12v at a variable amp range. When not connected it is redundant. Yellow - (earthed) it tells the BIOS I'm a fan and I'm spinning. It also detects rpm and signals red to supply amps accordingly. Green - redundant when not connected. When connected it will pwm according to relevant tmp sensor. The idea is that when you give fans an alternate standard 12v supply it will be at the amp range the fan wants and not at a possible higher amperage thus destroying your fan or not working well with the hijacked pwm signal.
  9. XeonUnicorn

    HP Proliant ML350p G8 Watercooling!

    FYI as the pic and post didn't really explain it very well, the green wire is the pwm signal.
  10. HJB

    HP Proliant ML350p G8 Watercooling!

    Hi there fellow hardware hackers :-) I'm in the process of setting up a Home Server based on this ML350P Gen8. While awaiting some deliverys like Noctua Coolers and 2.nd CPU I decided to do some basics first. Collect the relevant Documentation QuickSpecs SpareParts List HP ProLiant Gen8 Troubleshooting Guide, Volume 1: Troubleshooting HP ProLiant Troubleshooting Guide, Volume 2: Error Messages HPE ProLiant ML350p Gen8 Server Maintenance and Service Guide Collect the latest Firmware ILO Channel Interface Driver Version: 3.30.0.0(24 Oct 2016) ILO Version 2.73(13 Feb 2020) Power Management, Version: 3.3(B)(20 Mar 2018) Storage Controller, Version: 8.32(C), Nov 27, 2018 Create a Bootable SSD with all nessesary Stuff installed/available as temporary Bootdisk. Unregistred Windows Server 2016. (English with Swiss-DE, Swiss-FR and US Keyboards) Installed Smart Storage Administrator Installed ILO Channel Interface Driver HP Documentation and Firmware from Chapter 1 & 2 in C:\HPE-ML350P-Gen8 Update the Firmware Upgraded ILO to V2.73 (Yes the HTML5 Remote Console works like a Charm). Upgraded Power Management to V3.3 Upgraded Storage Controller to V8.32 Change Smart Array P420i Controller to HBA (Host Bus Adapter) Modus. Beware!!! System cannot Boot from Disks on HBA Mode P420i Controller. You can alternatively boot from SATA SSD, USB, SD Card, or CD-Rom if need to :-) Start Smart Storage Administrator in P420i Configuration check Set Port Mode HBA Terminate Smart Storage Administrator Reboot System Installed extra RAM It was running with only 8GB RAM as I got it. As I got hand on some old Gen7 VMware hosts I checked for compatibility and sure it runs with 1333Mhz DDR3 from Gen7 just fine. Of course it's a little slower than the 1866 MHz the Gen8 is capable of. But since I got them for free I'm just going to ignore the speed difference. As of now the 1'st CPU has got 6 x 16GB + 6 x 8GB. In total a decent 144 GB of RAM. I got an identical Set waiting for the 2'nd CPU. I guess 288 GB Ram should cover some ground HDD Install Installed 4 x 4 TB Seagate SATA LFF HDD Awaiting Delivery of some Drive Cages for 2 more Disks Currently I'm at this Point of my Endeavour awaiting some deliveries. Future Points to be Coverd are CPU Upgrade Remove current 1 Xeon E5-2603 @ 1.80GHz Install 2 x 2 Intel Xeon E5-2680 8 Core Processor 2.7GHz Cooling modification (Noise reduction) Remove fantray Install 2 x Fans Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM Install 2 x CPU Coolers Noctua NH-U9DX i4 Get PWM Signal working. This Post looks promising https://homeservershow.com/forums/topic/16135-hp-proliant-ml350p-g8-watercooling/?do=findComment&comment=150968 Remove Temporary Windows SSD Install dual SSD's Install Proxmox Boot from dual SSD ZFS Mirror. Main Storage 6 x 4TB Sata HDD as 3 x 2 ZFS Mirrors I'll keep you posted when I get futher down the List :-)
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  12. schoondoggy

    Counterfeit SSD M.2

    For M.2 SSD's. most vendors have test software that should be able to validate that the device is authentic: examples Intel® Solid State Drive Toolbox, SanDisk SSD Dashboard. The best way I have found to avoid counterfeit devices is to purchase them from authorized channel partners. Check the manufacturer website for authorized resellers and buy from one of those. For the LSI counterfeit HBA/RAID controller issue, stay away from sellers in China and Hong Kong. I tend to buy from people selling a single card or small quantities, that accept returns. Most cards that I have bought happen to be Dell-HPE-IBM-SUN branded LSI cards, that I update the firmware to generic LSI code. Over the years I have bought 25+ LSI HBA's and I have never had an issue. Serve The Home has great reference materials on LSI HBA" https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/lsi-raid-controller-and-hba-complete-listing-plus-oem-models.599/
  13. some of that article didn't make sense. essentials is not essentials? it also mentions 2012r2 a lot. what I see on my 2016 essentials machine is I cannot rename it until I remove some rolese/services, which I am not about to play around with. maybe someday when I am really bored. (not likely) I for one don't use the network part of the explorer much, I pin file shares/folders of interest to my explorer icon and in the odd case of something else use windows-run and start typing from the \\server.... part. I am not sure what you are afraid of, you don't have the server doing dhcp unless you tell it so. you can add and remove roles as you wish. (ymmv) the UEFI stuff is interesting. When I build my USB thumb drives, be they for win10 full install or server 2016 client recovery I always do them in pairs, one for uefi and one for bios, and carefully mark them as such. as to using old client backups in a newer server I have no experience to contribute. I can say that the fact that one of my servers is a domain has not stopped me from anything I wanted to do.
  14. LVLouisCyphre

    Counterfeit SSD M.2

    This was a big issue with USB flash drives and probably still is. This is obviously an issue with SSDs. It's been noted that it's an issue with LSI cards since they are in very high demand with ZFS based servers. What are the best utilities for identifying counterfeit M.2 SSD M.2 based on the user base experience? I'm looking into buying a dozen of them for my lab/server garden for ZFS (RAIDZ2) booting.
  15. Hi Neil. I certainly have indeed tried to Google stuff, but when I come across links, they seem to assume existing knowledge of what a domain is, then quickly jump to Active Directory, DNS, Network Discovery, etc which seem corporate stuff far beyond my current knowledge. The only think I'm certain of is that I don't want a Domain controller (my router can do part of that, DHCP at least) as I just want to replace my WHS2011. However once you helpfully indicate a problem, that enables me to search for specifics about a solution. I have come across this which seems to indicate that 2016 Essentials can be part of my workgroup instead... https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server-essentials/install/add-windows-server-essentials-as-a-member-server ...so am I misreading this, but if not, how would I install 2016 Essentials in the first place as a Domain name seems to be mandatory? Also would this mean that it would appear on my Network on File Explorer? I did also find 2016 Essentials Client Restore problems caused by UEFI client settings. Most web pages show a method that is incorrect on all my Win 7 Pro PCs but a helpful page showed how to check if I am using it and fortunately all my PCs are BIOS. I have also found conflicting web pages on whether or not I could migrate my current hard drives from my N40L into the new 2016 Essentials server, then configure backup to use the transferred old backups. Could you help clarify? Many thanks for your patient help...TomP
  16. skandal

    HPE Microserver Gen10 Plus

    Wow, nice marketing video.... Less fan noise, well how did you know that smart pants (the guy on the video)... I wonder how much noise that 80mm fan will produce once the CPU starts doing something. The previous Gen10 was cheaper when it was released. I guess it makes sense for a non tech savvy company to buy this... but then again, if your are not tech savvy you can also buy a QNAP or a Synology. For a homelab this is just crap. For that amount of money you can build something way better and be as compact.
  17. schoondoggy

    Which SAS Expander and Controller?

    For 8 drives you would not need a SAS expander. You could run 4 drives from each of the two external ports on an HBA like a LSI SAS9200-8E: https://www.ebay.com/itm/USED-640HN-Dell-640HN-PCIe-LSI-Sas9200-8e-SAS-Controller-Low-Profile-SFF-Bracket/184184972691?hash=item2ae247a593:g:LQgAAOSwsFJeH2HO
  18. bigo93

    Which SAS Expander and Controller?

    An extra 4 at first, but maybe another 4 some time later if I can get this set up. Enclosure is just an old PC case with an old motherboard in it with the SAS Expander plugged in. then 4 drives connected to port 2 of the sas expander. I've looked at a couple of those My PLayhouse videos, but that guy has a rack server, and also knows what he's doing; well knows more about server hardware than I do
  19. schoondoggy

    Which SAS Expander and Controller?

    How many drives do you plan on adding? What disk enclosure do you have? The HPE P222 is a RAID controller, Xpenology seems to work best with HBA cards. Most of your hardware choices are defined by what is compatible Xpenology. You will need to research what others have implemented successfully: https://xpenology.com/forum/topic/13428-dsm-62-with-sas-extender/
  20. bigo93

    Can't install Windows 10

    If you created the bootable win10 usb on a win10 PC then it most likely set the usb to be used on a system with GPT and UEFI Gen8 microserver uses old BIOS from looks of it, so the usb needs to be for MBR Use rufus and change the Partition scheme to MBR before creating your bootable usb. This worked for me, but I think it also depends on the hdd you are installing to.
  21. I have xpenology nas installed on my Gen8 microserver. I want to expand the number of drives connected to the server I'm not familiar with server hardware and setups, so I've just guessed what I needed I bought a P222 Controller card and a HP SAS Expander Card 487738-001 468405-001 But my server doesnt seem to connect to the disk enclosure with the SAS expander in it. Are these 2 compatible? Or does it need a specific controller like the p410i? Or do I need to buy a HBA card like LSI SAS9207-8E Any help appreciated.
  22. DenKarp

    HP Proliant ML350p G8 Watercooling!

    Thank you for the response! Config of my machine? Not sure in what manner you mean. Don't have it for anything other than just the normal desktop use. Yes I do have an hdd cage which houses them. Its the original that came with the unit and also came with the short length connectors (fiber i believe) that pop into two slots on the motherboard. You can't see it from here but they are right behind the drive bay. I believe I already had Win10 installed when it was just a standalone drive connected to the sata port. I then enabled the RAID controller and adjusted it for RAID 0 and it took a few minutes, I believe. It stripped whatever was on disk 0 to the other drive and left the third one alone, as specified. I could use a SSD as a cache but prefer the robustness of an actual physical controller instead....besides, the max GB/Ts is I believe 6 on this motherboard and am already very close to it. Give UnRAID a try and post results!! Would like to see how it pans out!
  23. Noth

    HPE Microserver Gen10 Plus

    I'm seeing that the iLO outboard connector card is about 120USD in Switzerland. Not too expensive but yes it'd be better if it was included at that price. That built in RAID is presumably this barely better than Software RAID isn't it? Not interested in that myself. As for the BIOS updates, so long as they release the security fixes for free as they did on the Gen8, should be alright. HPE like you to have a license for everything, worse than the British government!
  24. ook4mi

    HP Proliant ML350p G8 Watercooling!

    Congratz for your config, it looks great ! I like the idea to control volt so you can control speed of fan. I did a few thing to make mine quiet but it still a bit loud ... What is the config of your HP ML350P g8 ? 3 sata drive ? You don't have hdd cage in your machine ? You boot directly from Sata port on the mother board ? Did you install Win10 using HP Intelligent Provising ? The cache module part of your message really interested me because I'm looking to buy one to have more than 2 logical volume . With some distro like UnRaid you can use a SDD as a cache to improve speed . Thanks
  25. Scepticalist

    HPE Microserver Gen10 Plus

    With respect, they said that of the original Gen10, but it's equally hard to see where the market is for these if you take away the prosumer market. I'd not recommend one for a lab environment at work given the discounts which are easily available on the DL range with built in RAID and iLO. Equally, there are better options for SME/Branch server
  26. PunyEarthling76

    HPE Microserver Gen10 Plus

    WOW. That’s double the previous one. Well that’s the end of that.
  27. schoondoggy

    HPE Microserver Gen10 Plus

    Introductory pricing is always high. The design of this server and other interaction I have had recently with HPE, lead me to believe that home media server and home lab server are not the target customers for this server.
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