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itGeeks

Interesting thoughts.

 

Could I summarize it like this? 

 

A router connects/seperates two networks, the inner LAN and outside web. 

A switch works only in the same LAN, but can direct the packets to the right place.

The router is required to assign the LAN ips.

This is going to sound rude though I don't mean for it to sound rude, If you have some problem that your trying to solve then you have come to the right place. We have a combined knowledge of multiple years to help you get your problem solved and all for free but if your just looking for general knowledge then google is your friend and there are paid courses on networking that would better serve your needs. It would be better if you just try and tell us what your trying to do, The information we provide will be better for your situation. There are a million ways to configure a network but not every configuration is going to be right for everyone so rather then pick everyone's heads on this please tell us what your trying to do so we can better serve you. If this is just general information then please do what I said above.

nothing is absolute in this business... for the last sentence, the router is the most common but not the only option for assigning lan IP addresses.

Agreed

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itGeeks

Hi Royco,

Let me start this off by saying I am very sorry if what I said yesterday sounded rude I was just simply trying to make a point at the risk of sounding like the jerk that I am not. I would like to provide you some great resources for free training by Eli the Computer Guy, This guy knows his stuff and I been following his videos for years, Have a look-

 

Introduction to Networking 29 Videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL8RSFQG8do&list=PLF360ED1082F6F2A5

 

Understanding Switches https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yYqNqTNnqI

 

TCP/IP and Subnet Masking https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkNq4TrHP_U

 

Understanding SOHO Routers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w44J7CN26Ig

Eli has many other great videos, Just search his channel but what I provided should give you a wealth of learning information.

 

I hope this helps...

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jmwills

I posted what I did about using an external switch because more often than not, the switch element of SOHO routers are not very good.  I had rather spend a few extra dollars for a good quality switch, unmanaged is okay, rather than start chasing network issues which cost me time.

 

Anytime I stat having to chase config errors be they hardware or software, I charge myself for the time in relation to what a new component would cost to fix the issue.  If the error was something I did to "hack the system" then that's on me.  But buying substandard gear is not something I'm going to waste my time with. 

 

Just my opinion.  Your mileage may vary.

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nrf

There is definitely an advantage to an outboard switch which increases with the number of boxes you have on the network. Assuming only a fraction of the traffic on the lan ends up on the internet. this lets all the local stuff proceed nicely on the switch and only the internet traffic bothers the router hardware. in fact the 'common advice' is that it is best to have a single large switch even if it needs more wiring, but I am less convinced of this when you go into the gigabit speeds. In any case, Depending on the building, running wires from everything to a huge central switch can be quite a hassle. Thus I have a 'downstairs' switch with a trunk to the 'upstairs switch'.

 

In my network I also use switches for isolation and range extension purposes - breaking up too-long length of network into legal lengths. with strategically placed protection, hopefully a emp/lightning event outside will not make its way into my main switch :)

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itGeeks

I posted what I did about using an external switch because more often than not, the switch element of SOHO routers are not very good.  I had rather spend a few extra dollars for a good quality switch, unmanaged is okay, rather than start chasing network issues which cost me time.

 

Anytime I stat having to chase config errors be they hardware or software, I charge myself for the time in relation to what a new component would cost to fix the issue.  If the error was something I did to "hack the system" then that's on me.  But buying substandard gear is not something I'm going to waste my time with. 

 

Just my opinion.  Your mileage may vary.

Agreed, I am on your team with your thoughts.

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My youngest son just built a house and I insisted he run "home runs" back to a central wiring closet.  The entire cost was $1500 for all materials and labor.  If I were closer I could have done this for him and cut the cost to materials only.  He was able to run speaker wires, etc but I sold him on the resale value of the wiring.  Two wired plugs in every room and two behind where his big TV is deployed.

 

Wireless is a convenience but wired is a necessity, IMO.

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nrf

it is so much easier to wire them up front. I would recommend that anyone planning new construction consider it carefully.

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Royco

Hi Royco,

Let me start this off by saying I am very sorry if what I said yesterday sounded rude I was just simply trying to make a point at the risk of sounding like the jerk that I am not. I would like to provide you some great resources for free training by Eli the Computer Guy, This guy knows his stuff and I been following his videos for years, Have a look-

 

Introduction to Networking 29 Videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL8RSFQG8do&list=PLF360ED1082F6F2A5

 

Understanding Switches https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yYqNqTNnqI

 

TCP/IP and Subnet Masking https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkNq4TrHP_U

 

Understanding SOHO Routers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w44J7CN26Ig

Eli has many other great videos, Just search his channel but what I provided should give you a wealth of learning information.

 

I hope this helps...

 

Thank you for the list; I'll have a movie night and tomorrow be much wiser.

 

And I did not really know how to google my question.

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itGeeks

Thank you for the list; I'll have a movie night and tomorrow be much wiser.

 

And I did not really know how to google my question.

Your welcome. As for googling your questions, I find it best to search google in plain English like this: "understanding network switches" without the quotes and you will get these results

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=understanding%20network%20switches

 

As you can see the video I linked to by Eli is listed 5th one down in the search results.

 

I hope all this info helps, Good luck with movie knight :)

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itGeeks

it is so much easier to wire them up front. I would recommend that anyone planning new construction consider it carefully.

Agreed, If I was doing new construction for a home I would put at least two Ethernet jacks on every wall and one cable jack. There is no substitute for wire if the device has an Ethernet jack then use it. Wireless 2nd.

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