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Looking to see if anyone has purchased the Synology DS215J and what they think about it?  Also what would be the best drive choice to install in it?

 

Thanks in advance!

 

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Looking to see if anyone has purchased the Synology DS215J and what they think about it?  Also what would be the best drive choice to install in it?

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Eric

Never used that model but I do own several Synology NAS units, What are you looking to solve with this unit? Please list out and post everything your planing to do with a NAS unit then we can better guide you in what to purchase. As for drives, WD Red NAS 5 or 6TB drives, The 5 and 6TB drives use the new NASware 3.0 firmware, The smaller drives have the old firmware on them. Click the link below and scroll down on the DS215J page to see the drives-

http://www.amazon.com/Synology-America-DiskStation-Attached-DS215j/dp/B00PTGJ6XC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1441368552&sr=8-1&keywords=ds215j&pebp=1441368550949&perid=181P0YFAQQMNB5RNP4YC

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Looking to see if anyone has purchased the Synology DS215J and what they think about it?  Also what would be the best drive choice to install in it?

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Eric

I usually go to the Synology compatibility guide:

https://www.synology.com/en-global/compatibility?search_by=products&category=hdds&p=1&product_bays=2&product_name=DS215j

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Thanks for the responses!  Yes, have read through the customer feedback on Amazon and also have looked at the Synology compatibility chart.  Actually thinking of purchasing from Amazon but was going to go for the 2x3TB.  I couldn't find what drives they ship with other than one reviewer said he purchased it with Seagate NAS HDD.  I don't mind purchasing the drives separate but if this is a better deal then I can go for that especially if those drives are a good match up performance wise.

 

I have reviewed many other home cloud/media/nas servers and this one seems very good for my needs.  I plan on backing up at least 3 PCs, stream video/music, web development, web/external file access and also may use it for surveillance. The DSM 5.2 software looks pretty cool and they have lots of ad-ons.

 

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Thanks for the responses!  Yes, have read through the customer feedback on Amazon and also have looked at the Synology compatibility chart.  Actually thinking of purchasing from Amazon but was going to go for the 2x3TB.  I couldn't find what drives they ship with other than one reviewer said he purchased it with Seagate NAS HDD.  I don't mind purchasing the drives separate but if this is a better deal then I can go for that especially if those drives are a good match up performance wise.

 

I have reviewed many other home cloud/media/nas servers and this one seems very good for my needs.  I plan on backing up at least 3 PCs, stream video/music, web development, web/external file access and also may use it for surveillance. The DSM 5.2 software looks pretty cool and they have lots of ad-ons.

 

Eric

 

 

As for the hard drives, Seagate vs Western Digital is like Ford vs Chevy. I personally like Chevy so I choose Western Digital NAS drives :) but as schoondoggy said always check the compatibility website. You touch on some things here that you want to use this NAS for and I am a bit concerned so I have some questions for you that may lead to more questions based on your answer. You say you want to stream video/music, What software are you planing on using for this? Also you say you may want to use it for Surveillance, Will this only be used as a target for recordings or would you want to use the Synology Surveillance Station? How many cameras are we talking about? No questions on the other things you say you want to use the NAS for because the NAS will handle that no problem. This unit is only a dual core 800 MHz CPU and 512 MB of DDR3 memory none up-gradable so it would not be to hard to over tax this unit if you start loading demanding applications on this box. If you want to use it as a storage target and maybe a couple of none demanding Synology applications then you should be fine. Synology Surveillance Station can be a bit taxing on the NAS depending how its setup and if your planing on using something like Plex media server on it for streaming you can forget it, Its not going to happen. I have seen way to many times people order there first NAS on the cheap only to find out after they see how wonderful they are and everything you can do with them there purchasing another more expensive model a short time later. Also is 3TB of storage really going to be enough for all your data with a good 50% room to grow? Sorry for the long post but I am just trying to give you several things to think about as it will provide you with the information needed to make the right purchase to solve your needs not only today but for the future hopefully without wasting mony

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Knowledge is power so great questions and concerns!

Yes my one concern was the 800MHz CPU but as long as I am not trying to tax it too much it should be good.

Only 1 or 2 cameras at most.  Synology has the add on that I was going to use for that. Only going to be using at night or while gone so should not be running anything else at the time except for backups.

Actually evaluating 3TB right now.  Have to look at everything I have. I keep most if not all data on external storage right now.  Very few items on a few of the PCs that need backed up.  Will be doing a lot more with my audio library in the future. 

As far as software goes I will be streaming media to PCs and TV.  TV is probably going to be the SONY XBR-55X850C which has a multitude of apps/etc. Got a TiVo player as well.  The Synology model is DLNS certified and I expect the SONY to be certified for that soon.  PC wise will be running iTunes and also Windows Media Player and VLC Media Player for GoPro vids. Or really anything else that might enhance my experience.

And of course the usual iPad, iPhone accessibility to run/play stuff.

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Knowledge is power so great questions and concerns!

Yes my one concern was the 800MHz CPU but as long as I am not trying to tax it too much it should be good.

Only 1 or 2 cameras at most.  Synology has the add on that I was going to use for that. Only going to be using at night or while gone so should not be running anything else at the time except for backups.

Actually evaluating 3TB right now.  Have to look at everything I have. I keep most if not all data on external storage right now.  Very few items on a few of the PCs that need backed up.  Will be doing a lot more with my audio library in the future. 

As far as software goes I will be streaming media to PCs and TV.  TV is probably going to be the SONY XBR-55X850C which has a multitude of apps/etc. Got a TiVo player as well.  The Synology model is DLNS certified and I expect the SONY to be certified for that soon.  PC wise will be running iTunes and also Windows Media Player and VLC Media Player for GoPro vids. Or really anything else that might enhance my experience.

And of course the usual iPad, iPhone accessibility to run/play stuff.

Have you ever tried Plex? If not your missing out on some great stuff. They have apps for pretty much anything and everything out there including Sony and TiVo http://www.engadget.com/2015/05/17/plex-tivo/ but you will need to install the Plex media server on a computer/server with a powerful CPU for real-time trans-coding to all your devices that need it. If you don't want to run a separate computer/server for the Plex media server then we have had a long discussion on this thread http://homeservershow.com/forums/index.php?/topic/9857-hss-podcast-288-discussion-qnap-vs-server-vs-synology/ talking about using a QNAP TS-X53 instead of Synology because it is more powerful supports 16GB of memory and you can install Windows on a VM and run Plex media server on that, Now you don't need the extra computer running 24/7. I have not tried any of the QNAPS yet but I will be getting one in for testing soon, The one I will be testing is the QNAP TS-453 mini, This is a very nice looking unit and will look great in the living room if the testing goes well. Here is a link to Plex 101 by Lon Seidman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1XarhCUL8o

 

By DLNS I think you meant DLNA and yes both Synology and Plex do support that however for me its a band aid for the true experience you get from a system like Plex.

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Have not looked into Plex but looks awesome.  Yes, if I went that direction would definitely go with a more hefty box.  I took a gander at the NAS compatibility list there as well.  If you want to go full blown on the transcoding side of things looks like you would have to step up to the over 3GHz arena. Even the TS-453 could struggle on some high bitrate 1080p. Now in looking through the discussions on Syn vs QNAP it seems most are going with QNAP. I definitely would want to keep it to one box to encompass what I want to do.

 

Actually was just looking at QNAP stuff.  The TS-251 looks nice.

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Have not looked into Plex but looks awesome.  Yes, if I went that direction would definitely go with a more hefty box.  I took a gander at the NAS compatibility list there as well.  If you want to go full blown on the transcoding side of things looks like you would have to step up to the over 3GHz arena. Even the TS-453 could struggle on some high bitrate 1080p. Now in looking through the discussions on Syn vs QNAP it seems most are going with QNAP. I definitely would want to keep it to one box to encompass what I want to do.

 

Actually was just looking at QNAP stuff.  The TS-251 looks nice.

Synology=Atom Processor = "No Trans-Coding" So if your even thinking to use Plex on the NAS and you need trans-coding then Synology is out. I would also not look at the TS-X51 series bu instead look at the TS-X53 series becous its more powerful and like you already pointed out even the TS-X53 could struggle with some high bitrate 1080p stuff. Synology recomends a PassMark CPU score of 2,000 for every simultaneous trans-code so if you want to trans-code one movie at a time then your good with a mark of 2000 for two trans-codes at the same time you need a PassMark score of 4,000 and so on, The TS-X53 has a PassMark score of just under 2000 coming in at 1885 http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+J1900+%40+1.99GHz

and the TS-X51 series has a PassMark score of 1059 http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+J1800+%40+2.41GHz&id=2167

 

Even though the TS-X53 series has a PassMark score of 1885 there have been reports that users where able to stream while trans-coding more then one movie at a time so I guess mileage will vary on this. I don't own one of the boxes yet but I am itching to get the TS-453 mini in for testing to see what it can really do. If you do go the rout of QNAP I would recomend maxing out the memory, It rated for max 8GB that's two sticks of 4GB each but many user have reported they have used two sticks of 8GB for a total of 16GB and that's awesome if your going to run VM's on this box.

 

Hope this helps.

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