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Hello

 

Im thinking of purchasing a MS Gen 8, and i saw a big price difference between cpu, and then i was looking around the forums about cpu upgrades, then i thought what if i just buy the cheapest model (310 bux) with the Intel Celeron G1610T and then buy a Xeon 1265L or something in that order. I compaired the both and saw that the Celeron version in my country only sells with 2GB and can only handle max of 16gb ram and the Xeon version (720 bux) can handle up to 32 GB im not sure if its because of the motherboard or because of the cpu. However, my guess is that its because of the CPU because  i doubt a celeron would need that much Ram.

Does anybody know of more input if the hardware is different besides the cpu because i wasnt able to find any differences.

 

I saw this forum also sells brackets to add more drives, would i need a pci-e sata card or are there more plugs available on this mobo.

 

I hope this is not a repost, but i read posts title to see if anything similar was posted.

 

thanks in advanced and hope to be part of this MS Gen 8 server family =p

 

cheers

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The base motherboard is the same in all HP MS Gen 8 servers. They all have a max memory of 16GB. 

There are 5 SATA ports on the HP MS Gen 8 motherboard. Four are via the mini SAS connector on the motherboard and the fifth is a SATA connection on the motherboard.

Ports 1&2 are 6Gb/s SATA and 3-4-5 are 3Gb/s SATA.

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great thanks for the fast reply. Oh ya i must have misread that the xeon ones also only supports 16gb ram. thats a pitty... i guess i need to make some research with this mobo because im pretty new to enterprise storage grade abbreviations. Thats great news that the base is the same because if i get the cheapest model ill come around the same price with the upgrade and 16gb ecc ram then the most expenisiv xeon 1220l.

 

I hope that would be enough to run freeNAS with raid-z or do you recommend centos because i mostly hear of people running centos on these MS.

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Ports 1&2 are 6Gb/s SATA and 3-4-5 are 3Gb/s SATA.

You mean half drives in the front runs 6bgps and half 3gbps? My thoughts that four drives runs 6gbps and odd (port 5) - 3gbps

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Check the Quickspecs

 

The MicroServer G8 uses the Intel C204 chipset which only supports two (2) SATA III (6Gbps) ports and up to an additional 4 SATA II (3Gbps) ports.

 

Ports 1&2 are SATA III (6Gbps) and Ports 3,4&5 are SATA II (3Gbps)

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Bare in mind buying the cheapest base doesnt always work..

 

I started off with the G1610T, then had the i3-3220T, then a Xeon 1260L, 2Gb, 8gb then 16gb, drives from 500Gb to 6tb, SSD's and a P222, think I am about done now although I am eyeing up the 2Gb cache for the P222..

 

Whatever you start with, find out someone who is doing exactly what you want to do, upgrade to that point and then leave it the hell alone, otherwise you faff, the missus gets arsey and you end up spending more than you needed too lol

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Haha! I know that feeling.. I started by selling the missus on the fact I could replace my ARM based QNAP with a Gen8 which was only about £100 with the cashback. I said I could sell my QNAP to cover the cost. Then I bought an extra 8Gb RAM and a license for iLO, and a license for 2012 R2 Essentials.Then I wanted to move Plex onto the Gen8 instead of running it on my Core i7 desktop and that only just coped on the G1610T. So then I decided to buy the 1265LV2 at which point she said "your projects always end up more expensive than you say they are going to be"....

 

I was wanting a P222 at one point, but I really didn't dare.

 

I'm a tinkerer, and I want to take the memory to 16Gb even though I don't really need 16Gb!

 

And I still have to buy my StableBit license this week :-)

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haha thanks for the insight.

Well the main purpose for this maschine would be to run it as a plex media server. So the goal was to get the chaepest and add 16gb ram with a 1265l and then run it on freenas in zfs raid-z configuration and be done with it. this solution seems cheaper then if i build my own low power home server.

I was first eyeing the super micro motherboard with the Intel Atom C2750 which is a octa core proc, and impressiv as this little chip is it scores better then the 1220l proc in passmark. Thats when i found this forum showing off that the hp ms gen 8 can be upgraded to a 1265l which gives me a passmark score of around 8000 which sound better then the C2750 and the 1220l which score around 3500-3900.

 

I also been doing some reading how freenas works with this unit and it seems as long as i active ahci in the bios it should work fine.

 

In summary, i would think going with the cheapest would be my best bet, if im gonna upgrade to a 1265l eitherway. Unless, somebody has a good reason not to go that path and just go for a self build home server.

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I researched a lot between the g1610t and other versions with all the different packaged sold by hp. At the end they were all , surprisingly , fairly priced.

The only differnt thing was that, ppl in uk seems to be getting some sweet cash back deals on the base version .

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