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Though I do suspect that BMR will not work well from WHS2011 with Win10 and future Win OS's.

 

This is one of the reasons I'm looking into other ways to back up my client PCs. I'm looking for a way that will be independent of the server.

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How has the Essentials role been improved in Server 10?

It really hasn't.... 

There has been some cleanup to the Dashboard (like placing the "Safe mode" stuff in an intelligent location finally....), but nothing "major" from what I've seen.

But I also didn't check out the website (which may have been improved).

 

That is to say, there is little change between 2012R2 and Server 10.

 

 Though I do suspect that BMR will not work well from WHS2011 with Win10 and future Win OS's.

Well, the WHS2011 restore disk DOES support UEFI.

That said... unfortunately, after WHSv1, none of the restore disks actually pull the EXEs from the server anymore. This means that they're not really updated and rely on the original restore disk code (for the most part... they CAN push updates to the image on the server (but the last time that happened appears to be Nov 2012... for WHS2011).

 

So if backups and BMR are a big deal to you, then you may want to upgrade to a newer version of "Windows Server Solutions" (aka

"Server Essentials") sooner or later.

 

 

This is one of the reasons I'm looking into other ways to back up my client PCs. I'm looking for a way that will be independent of the server.

This is also why it's sad that Microsoft removed the Windows Backup component from the client version of Windows. It was so very useful.

 

That said, Microsoft wants you to use "File History Backups" instead of a full BMR restore image anymore. But then considering how non-enthusiasts back up data ..... Which is to say... I've heard too many times: "Well, I won't lose any of my data when you work on my failing system, will I?" .............. And you can guess the answer ... and probably the question I ask in response... "Do you have a backup of it or have it stored anywhere else?" ....

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Well, the WHS2011 restore disk DOES support UEFI.

That said... unfortunately, after WHSv1, none of the restore disks actually pull the EXEs from the server anymore. This means that they're not really updated and rely on the original restore disk code (for the most part... they CAN push updates to the image on the server (but the last time that happened appears to be Nov 2012... for WHS2011).

 

So if backups and BMR are a big deal to you, then you may want to upgrade to a newer version of "Windows Server Solutions" (aka

"Server Essentials") sooner or later.

 

 

"So if backups and BMR are a big deal to you, then you may want to upgrade to a newer version of "Windows Server Solutions"

 

.....because the EXE's 'ARE' being stored and updated with Server 2012, and are pulled for a BMR? please clarify, thanks!

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I'll have to look into it more but as I said before I restored my Win8.1pro laptop last August from WHS2011 without issue.  It was a lifesaver at the time.

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"So if backups and BMR are a big deal to you, then you may want to upgrade to a newer version of "Windows Server Solutions"

 

.....because the EXE's 'ARE' being stored and updated with Server 2012, and are pulled for a BMR? please clarify, thanks!

WHSv1 would pull the files over the network DURING the restore process, ensuring that even an old restore disk would have the newest files, IIRC.

 

WHS2011 and later ... it's all stored on the server... and only updated when you create a new boot disk....

It is just that it handles it a let less elegantly.... 

 

I'll have to look into it more but as I said before I restored my Win8.1pro laptop last August from WHS2011 without issue.  It was a lifesaver at the time.

Depends on how the laptop was setup...

 

But I've personally had issues getting the client restore (and the client backup) working with UEFI systems. 

But part of that is the UEFI firmware itself. While it's a standard ... not all of it is standardized. I've seen boards that would only boot from NTFS formatted flash drives, and some only from FAT32 formatted.... And I've seen some that will only boot from GPT flash drives...

 

It's a CF.

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