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itGeeks

Most of the systems I've been involved with are for commercial use, so are using commercial products, mostly Honeywell. I don't recall the camera models ATM, but you can find their 1080p cams on their web site.

 

Thank you for the info ikon.

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Poppapete

So I logged in again 22:19:00 which is 07:19:00 your time.  Not much action only a few cars passing at the front. Your Driveway Camera has the best picture the others not so good. The cars I saw passing were very stuttery. The DC-2CD2032-I I have is set to a frame rate of 12.5 and with that the cars pass in a smooth motion.

 

Scene under surveillance
A scene involving fast-moving objects will benefit significantly from a higher frame-rate; with, furthermore, an inverse relationship between the fps parameter and the size of the moving object. A scene involving a slow-moving object (say, a pedestrian) will look fine even at 5 fps, while a scene involving a car traveling at a reasonable speed will look jerky at 5 fps. There are certain industry guidelines for deciding on frame-rates for specific settings:

sqorange_old.gif Casino tables - 30 fps sqorange_old.gif Cash counting settings (bank tellers) - 12 to 15 fps sqorange_old.gif Vehicular traffic (not at traffic stops and parking lots) - 15 fps sqorange_old.gif Pedestrian traffic - 5 fps sqorange_old.gif Parking lots, traffic cameras, overview scenes - 1 to 3 fps sqorange_old.gif Low-activity settings - 1 fps

 

PS. I didn't have to use the login or password to get to your site tonight.  Don't know what that means!!

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itGeeks

I logged in about 15:56:00 Brisbane Australia Time and that was the time showing on your clock in the bottom left but all the Cameras were showing 00:56:00 which would be just after midnight East Coast USA. Very cold and dark considering it is about 87 F here today.  For night time those images look pretty good to me. The advantage of the 3MP's is that you can zoom way into a snapshot and still see things but I will have a look when its daytime at your place and get back to you.  You are correct re that dome and IP66. However I am not worried about vandalism more to do with the bullets not needing cleaning of the actual dome and the dome itself must affect the image as well. They are excellent value for money and as noted  by "networkcameracritic" these kind of cameras were costing over $1000 12 months ago.

Poppapete,

Thank you very much for taking a look at my cameras and your input of what you think about the night vision of them. I just found this review from networkcameracritic http://www.networkcameracritic.com/?p=1791#more-1791 I think I am sold and going to order two of them to start with and if all goes well I will order more.

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ikon

Just a note that stutter in security video has never been considered a big issue. There are exceptions of course: casino tables would be one of them. For most situations, there are 3 important items:

  1. the time
  2. being able to see what's going on well enough to understand what's happening
  3. being able to identify the person or vehicle in question

In many situations, 10 to 15 fps is plenty, even with moving vehicles. It's funny actually: in many ways it's easier to review video that's shot at lower frame rates because it plays back faster than real time.

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itGeeks

So I logged in again 22:19:00 which is 07:19:00 your time.  Not much action only a few cars passing at the front. Your Driveway Camera has the best picture the others not so good. The cars I saw passing were very stuttery. The DC-2CD2032-I I have is set to a frame rate of 12.5 and with that the cars pass in a smooth motion.

 

Scene under surveillance

A scene involving fast-moving objects will benefit significantly from a higher frame-rate; with, furthermore, an inverse relationship between the fps parameter and the size of the moving object. A scene involving a slow-moving object (say, a pedestrian) will look fine even at 5 fps, while a scene involving a car traveling at a reasonable speed will look jerky at 5 fps. There are certain industry guidelines for deciding on frame-rates for specific settings:

sqorange_old.gif Casino tables - 30 fps sqorange_old.gif Cash counting settings (bank tellers) - 12 to 15 fps sqorange_old.gif Vehicular traffic (not at traffic stops and parking lots) - 15 fps sqorange_old.gif Pedestrian traffic - 5 fps sqorange_old.gif Parking lots, traffic cameras, overview scenes - 1 to 3 fps sqorange_old.gif Low-activity settings - 1 fps

 

PS. I didn't have to use the login or password to get to your site tonight.  Don't know what that means!!

poppapete,

Thank you for taking another look at my cameras in daylight and thank you for the education on fps, That was very informative. Please have a look at this link on fps http://ipvm.com/updates/1100 Its also a good read. I do record everything at 30 fps, Y? because I have the bandwidth and storage to handle it and heck y not have full real-time if you have the hardware & bandwidth. As for the stuttering, I have had that since day one and just thought it was normal because I record on motion but now I am taking it that this is not normal and just be my Foscam FI9805W and Foscam FI9821W cameras that are having trouble. I cant wait to get my new Hikvision cameras to test out against my cameras to see if I get better results with them to include no dropouts/resets like I get with my cameras. They do come right back online so I have been fine with it till now.

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itGeeks

Just a note that stutter in security video has never been considered a big issue. There are exceptions of course: casino tables would be one of them. For most situations, there are 3 important items:

  1. the time
  2. being able to see what's going on well enough to understand what's happening
  3. being able to identify the person or vehicle in question

In many situations, 10 to 15 fps is plenty, even with moving vehicles. It's funny actually: in many ways it's easier to review video that's shot at lower frame rates because it plays back faster than real time.

ikon,

That is very interesting. So am I doing more harm then good recording at 30 fps? I just thought if I have the hardware and bandwidth to record in real time then y not. I think I was reading some ware that 15 fps is perceived real time, Do you no if that's true?

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ikon

Many of the installs I've worked on are running 10 to 15 fps. If you play 15 fps back at 15 fps it does look pretty smooth. I can see the stutter, but I've been looking at this stuff a very long time, so.....

 

However, what I normally do is play back 15 fps recordings at 24 or ever 30 fps. At those speeds, it's like everything is in fast motion. It looks smooth enough, but everything happens more quickly, which makes reviewing a video much quicker of course, something I appreciate. ;)

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John benett


Security Monitor Pro is a powerful video surveillance software that supports up to 32 IP cameras. It has time based recording and motion detection alerting, and remote viewing, along with many other features that are useful. Easy to use and reliable and supports just about every IP camera efficiently.

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jmwills

^^^^^  Sounds like a paid advertisement.

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ikon

^^^^^  Sounds like a paid advertisement.

 

Agreed.

 

John bennett, posts about good products are not necessarily disliked, but the poster needs to identify any affiliation they have with the company making the product. Not doing so could get the post reported and, potentially, lead to the post or entire thread being deleted.

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