Jump to content
RESET Forums (homeservershow.com)
schoondoggy

Obihai OBI202 VoIP Phone Adapter with Router - Google Voice, SIP, T.38 Fax Support $59.99

Recommended Posts

cskenney

My biggest concern is the E911.  Ooma can handle it, right? But Obi with Google Voice can not.

 

Maybe I will just end up trying out both and seeing how it goes.  My Google Voice number is really simple because I found a number that the last 4 digits were the same as my work phone number.

 

Either way I can finally cut the POTS in a couple weeks.

 

If $69 is still too much to try out the Obi202 then there is always the Obi100 for $39  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833617001

 

There is also a nice write up about it by No-Control and his experience with the Obi100. http://www.racecarmike.com/obihai-obi100-voip-2/

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
g725s

Quote from Slickdeals:

  • Even though Google Voice don't have E911 support, you can signup for E911 yourself
    Link to How to set-up 911 calling on an OBi device
    http://blog.obihai.com/2011/11/calling-911-with-obi-devices.html
    • Cheapest E911 provider is Anveo (at $0.8/month) http://www.anveo.com/service.asp (FREE plan and add E911)
    • If you are switching from POTS to Obi or other voip services, in many states the old phone line will remain active for calling 911. You just leave your phone connected and they disabled outgoing calls at the phone company computers.
    • if you do not want to 'dedicate' a SIP slot for E911, you can use http://www.gv911.com/ - costs $12/year
    • www.smart911.com - Smart911 is a free service that allows citizens across the U.S. to create a Safety Profile for their household that includes any information they want 9-1-1 to have in the event of an emergency. Then, when anyone in that household dials 9-1-1 from a phone associated with their Safety Profile, their profile is immediately displayed to the 9-1-1 call taker providing additional information that can be used to facilitate the proper response to the proper location.
      Can check availability under the About page.

     
  • before you start porting your number to GV, check this first http://www.obihai.com/porttutorial.html
  • configuring 'single' stage dialing here - http://www.obitalk.com/forum/index.php?topic=1103.0
  • cheapest pay-per-minute is by localphone.com at 0.5 cent/minute to US numbers
  • MagicJack/Nettalk/Ooma can be connected to the POTS line of this obi110 - look at obitalk forum for more info on this. (in theory these are next best to free GV)
  • For people want alternative to GV, here are some good quality and/or low price Voips.  Some of those VoIP Services offer phone number in other countries also.  Remember this is a standard SIP device so you are not tie to GV and any specific Voip.
     
  • Some Voip that provide free incoming call.  May want to double check and see if this information is out of date or not.
    • For free incoming call, you can also use IpKall.  It works with Callcentric to provide free local number in Washington State and free incoming call.
      http://www.ipkall.com/
    • Another service offer free incoming phone number
      http://www.sipgate.com/

     
  • Here are some of the Voip that offer very low price International Calls
    • Onesuite and localphone offer a lot of local access number so can use it without Voip device.  Those two also offer international local access number which you can use outside US.  Check their website for more info.
      http://www.onesuite.com     (Onesuite has been around for 10+ years and consistently great quality)
      - offer low price long distance
      - Internet Fax
      - Global Call Forwarding
      - Voip phone service
    • http://www.localphone.com (cheapest pay-per-minute is by localphone.com at 0.5 cent/minute to US numbers)


suggested reading for keeping up with xmpp developments:



  • xmpp discussion over at obitalk:  http://www.obitalk.com/forum/index.php?topic=5954.0
    recent excerpt

     

     

    From what my preliminary research indicates, we should not have a lot of concern.  Google are merely choosing to migrate from one open technology, XMPP with Jingle extensions, to another, WebRTC.  So when XMPP is kaputt, Obihai I will guess will simply release firmware 1.4, 2.0, or whatever, which will implement SIP, SDP, RTP, SRTP and WebRTC (instead of SIP, SDP, RTP, SRTP, XMPP, and Jingle).  Or maybe it will just graft on WebRTC so it will operate on all seven; not sure how much ROM/RAM/flash there is to work with and what the requirements are.
  • some more great info direct from a Google employee:


    excerpt: 

     

    We're working hard on supporting both, and outbound/inbound calls will soon be available. In the meantime, you can continue using Google Talk in Gmail.

    Hangouts is designed to be the future of Google Voice, and making/receiving phone calls is just the beginning. Future versions of Hangouts will integrate Google Voice more seamlessly.
  • thanks to cookiemonster for this update

     

    Over on XDA, the creator of BetterBatteryStats just posted the following:

     

    I have finished looking at the tech Web casts about the new playstore services. Focusing on the topic of this thread playstore services will have a huge (and potentially negative) impact on how we deal with freezing and disabling parts of the framework. The two main areas I have in mind are:
    - location providers are not only part of the android core anymore but also of the services. Namely this would be the fused location provider
    - gcm has big changes: messaging is from but also to the cloud, it is now based on xmpp and implements transaction security (data is stored on the device and deleted when it was acknowledged but the cloud)
    I think this indicates that XMPP isn't going anywhere.
  • Did Google REALLY Kill Off All XMPP/Jabber Support In Google+ Hangouts? It Still Seems To Partially Work
  • this was posted by a member over at obitalk.  it very much why these devices won't be useless, even if google does in fact drop xmpp support in the future.  you'll STILL be able to use this method using google voice for incoming calls with a setup like this.

     

    For anyone using the following method to set up Google Voice you will still receive incoming calls even if Google cuts off xmpp sometime in the future.

    http://www.obitalk.com/forum/index.php?topic=3640.0
Edited by g725s

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
ikon

That's a LOT of info g725s. One question: you say you can cancel your POTS and leave the line for 911 and the phone company will disable outgoing calls. How do you call 911 then?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
g725s

From what I beleive, as long is it was traditional phone line service, it retains the ability to dial out to 911 after the  regular service is cut.  

When I switched to VOIP I was using phone service provided by my cable internet company, so in essence I was already using VIOP.  So when I cut their service my line went completely dead, and I could not dial out to 911.  Think my problem there is that the Cable company disconnected the old phone line when they put in their box at the side of my house.  But I was not worried about it since I first went with Oooma and knew they would have 911.  Or maybe it is area/state specific.

Edited by g725s

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Jason

What is the benefit of Ooma or other devices over dropping all phone service and going with cellular provider?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
cskenney

From what I beleive, as long is it was traditional phone line service, it retains the ability to dial out to 911 after the regular service is cut.

When I switched to VOIP I was using phone service provided by my cable internet company, so in essence I was already using VIOP. So when I cut their service my line went completely dead, and I could not dial out to 911. Think my problem there is that the Cable company disconnected the old phone line when they put in their box at the side of my house. But I was not worried about it since I first went with Oooma and knew they would have 911. Or maybe it is area/state specific.

My own personal experience is when you stop service with POTS you have no dial tone so you can not make any calls including 911.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
g725s

Honestly that is my experience too.  But I've read others posting that they were still able to get 911, or even that it was required it be provided at the minimum for free.  State dependent maybe?

Edited by g725s

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
cskenney

Your article is a little old.  Here is something more recent for California where the legislature is attempting to do away with warm lines for 911 service.  http://www.capitolweekly.net/article.php?xid=yywtegnq0w1ut9

 

E911 service through warm lines also seems to be very inconsistent.  I found a Consumers Report article that discusses what they found and a list of states that MIGHT offer the service.  http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2009/05/update-about-911-and-disconnected-landlines/index.htm

 

Obviously very inconsistent for a service that you need in the event of an emergency.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Dave

What is the benefit of Ooma or other devices over dropping all phone service and going with cellular provider?

 

For my family it's familiarity.  My kids always know where the POTS telephone is.  Half of the time I can't find my mobile phone how could I expect my kids to find it in an emergency?  That is worth $4 a month to have an e911 line via Ooma.  If obi required me to get another service for 911 I might hesitate.

That's a LOT of info g725s. One question: you say you can cancel your POTS and leave the line for 911 and the phone company will disable outgoing calls. How do you call 911 then?

 

I highly doubt this scenario.  A POTS line is a dedicated line of copper to the central office of your phone company.  Their switch knows the address of your copper in the CO and assigns a phone number to it.  If you disconnect your service they remove the phone number out of the switch and can also physically take your copper line out of the switch.  No service is no service.  I've been out of a CO for over 10 years so things may have changed.  As a CLEC, this is how things worked back in my day.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now



×
×
  • Create New...