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Hi. In a recent podcast, the new "storage spaces" technology introduced by Microsoft in Windows 8 was discussed. The discussion seemed to say that this was the end for WHS. However, I can't see why. Surely these storage spaces provide the underlying storage and so, for example, would replace the old DE from version 1, or RAID for 2011. I would have thought that the main functionality for WHS would be unaffected. For example - I would still use WHS to provide automated backups for the various PCs. What have I missed?

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It would not surprise me if Microsoft were to package the client backup technology of WHS into a Windows 8 app that could be bought via Windows Store and installed on a Windows 8 machine to provide that functionality. If they do this, then the case for a specific successor to WHS 2011 as a separate SKU is considerably weakened.

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I've also heard rumours that client station backup will be built into Server 8 at least. Can't recall where I heard this, but most likely from Paul Thurrott.

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Maybe I'm missing it too but storage spaces is, well, storage. I don't see consumers being excited about adding storage to their PC's. They can do that now and good luck trying to explain how it would all look like one volume vs. multiple drives, etc. WHS wasn't just about adding file storage for consumers. It was all the additional pieces that make it a product. It might morph into something different than a stand alone sku, like a la carte apps in an MS App. store but storage spaces alone is not a replacement for WHS.

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Well, it's looks as though "Storage Spaces" may be what Drive Extender should have become, and if it can enable home consumers to achieve pooled storage without worrying about it, then that's good for those home users who do want/need to have lots of local storage. For some, me included, extensive use of cloud storage is unlikely to ever become practicable, because of cost and performance reasons.

 

And yes, I think we are all agreed that WHS is more than just storage, pooled or not. The point is that the consumer versions of Windows 8 will have most of those components of WHS present as standard, together with others that have been wished for in WHS (but never delivered), such as a full complement of media services. The only consumer-priced gap in the Windows 8 lineup of functions, as I see it, is the lack of the equivalent of the WHS client backup facility.

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Well, it's looks as though "Storage Spaces" may be what Drive Extender should have become, and if it can enable home consumers to achieve pooled storage without worrying about it, then that's good for those home users who do want/need to have lots of local storage. For some, me included, extensive use of cloud storage is unlikely to ever become practicable, because of cost and performance reasons.

 

And yes, I think we are all agreed that WHS is more than just storage, pooled or not. The point is that the consumer versions of Windows 8 will have most of those components of WHS present as standard, together with others that have been wished for in WHS (but never delivered), such as a full complement of media services. The only consumer-priced gap in the Windows 8 lineup of functions, as I see it, is the lack of the equivalent of the WHS client backup facility.

 

I agree about the cloud. With 1TB of data (photos, databases et al) backing up to the Cloud is currently impractical - I'd hate to restore it. So I would use the WHS as the on-line archive and backup - my laptop keeping the files I need on a day-to-day basis. To protect the archive I may well stay with my 2x2TB external drives which I only power up once a week anyway. I still need the off-site backup - roll-on the 2TB thumb drive!

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And yes, I think we are all agreed that WHS is more than just storage, pooled or not. The point is that the consumer versions of Windows 8 will have most of those components of WHS present as standard, together with others that have been wished for in WHS (but never delivered), such as a full complement of media services. The only consumer-priced gap in the Windows 8 lineup of functions, as I see it, is the lack of the equivalent of the WHS client backup facility.

My primary role for the WHS would be backing up the clients arround the home and neighbours I "look after". I don't use all the other services - e.g. in support of a HTPC - but would certianly start using them once I had the box up and running. I do not see this box running the Windows 8 PC operating system - just WHS. However, I would also use the box for my SQLserver "mirrored" database (when I find out how to do it with SQLserver) - but that would be a "nice to have". This box would be headless and sit in a corner somewhere.

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@ikon - could well be true, but the Server 8 price point will be completely wrong for the home consumer market.

 

Curious how you know this? I haven't heard any pricing for Server 8, not even rumours. For myself, I'm hoping/expecting that I will be able to use Technet to get Server 8.

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