Bit of a random question here, and I know it depends on many factors such as what they are doing etc, but how many VMs have you guys comfortably ran on Gen8 with an E3-1265v2 and 16GB RAM? When did you start to see a performance hit compared to what the Gen8 is generally capable of?
By Server Grunt
Taking a new shot at this
I am still in a thinking period and I would appreciate some additional input from you.
The reason is that some external factors have been changed and that I have discovered more of what I really need
The space available only allows for one large tower and I have narrowed it down to a Lian li Armorsuit PC-P80 or PC-A70F – I also have some possibility to place a SAN box “remotely” in the network or in a small space in the same room
Usage scenarios and environment
As previously said the basic plan is to run a one box virtual environment using Server 2008 R2 as host and that would also manage my home NW environment, group policies etc.
Guests would include
WHS2011 production server
WHS 2011 test server
W7 Production PC – work and play
W7 test pc
W8 test pc
WHS for storage and back up
W7 for work and gaming – see below (NEW)
W7 or WHS for media management (transcoding, photo editing etc.)
Raid cards and SAN card
Previous suggestions was for one expensivehttp://www.newegg.co...N82E16816115095card to cover all of the 20 storage HDDs and 4 to 6 host and guest system SSD. Is this one card to prefer over 2 less expensive cards, concidering my usage scenarios
Now, to be able to accommodate the possible graphics cards I would probably need to remove one of the storage cages (5 HDDs) to house the SSDs at the bottom (this will also create a freeer cool air flow)
This would mean that any expansion would be in an external case that needs to be connected. eSata has already been discarded, but what about using a SAN card to connect?
Now concerning gaming – I have realized that I would like to have some fairly high end gaming capabilities (read BF3 and similar) This would probably mean that I would insert 2 fairly large and hot graphic cards, in addition to the 1 (or 2) RAID cards (depending on set-up (separate discussion above) and a possible SAN card (see expansion above)
Would it be wise or even really possible to fit the hardware that would support server, transcoding and heavy gaming in a system that would run 24/7 365?
Wolud any reasonable system that fits in a fairly normal case and not being prohibitory expensive manage this?
Both cases have a lot of fans and with the new possible gaming set-up I am also concidering CPU and GPU water cooling, using pre-assembled systems such as a corsair unit for CPU, but do not know what to use for GPU – are ther any integrated units. The CoolIT 180 Epic would be nice, though ;-)
The caveat is that I do not know the mounting capabilities of the cases for this.
Maybe a little bit of a confusing post but hope that you are able to give some input.
By Server Grunt
I am looking into building a server/home server and virtual host and whilst I have many ideas and some pre-requisites I do need advice and insight into how to best realize.
To my ideas
My basic idea is to use virtualization based on server 2008 R2 to host production WHS 2011, Win 7, as well as experiment WHS 2011 and Win 7. The 2008 server would also function as my domain host, active directory manager and net work control center.
Use tower form factor (home limitations excludes rack that would have been wonderful to use) – As I want to have as few boxes as possible I am looking at a full tower/server style box with as many HDD places as possible. Current candidates are:
Lian Li: PC-343b, PC-P80B/N, PC-A77FB, PC-2150
Antec – 1200
Xigmatek Elysium Black
My idea was to use a mirrored SSD set up (2 SSD in a 3.5 raid backplane mount) for the host OS and a similar, separate, set-up to host the virtual guests.
Now, most cases have the ability to add one or more system drives, often 2.5” as system drives
However, my planned set up I will use all 3.5 spaces and the one SSD special mount that the Antec has, for example, is not enough.
Question: Any suggestions on how to solve this
All of these have 12 external 5.25”, except PC-343b which has 18.
The idea is to use 5.25” to 3.5” converters and try to fit as may HDDs as possible.
Ex: http://www.polywell.com/us/storage/NetDisk9020H.asp ( Antec 1200 based
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1327338 (Lian-li PC-343b based)
I have aneed for this amount of storage
All these cases allows for big, powerful motherboards, so the question is really if to go for a PC or server board,
Should I go for a Sandy bridge or a 1 or 2 Xenon processor set-up?
Low noise is prioritized, but the size of the cases enables very large passiv or active cooler Question: Recommended CPU cooler?
Case and HDD Cooling
Fans, fans, fans. These are high spec cases that have ample fan placements to cool any type of build, but noise is an issue and therefore prioritized
what fans to use to get the best noise to air movement ratio?
If I use 5.25 to 3.5 cases, some of these come with mountable fans to push/draw air over the HDDs – Considering that here will be a number of fans at the back managing cooling, would such fans improve or actually make cooling more inefficient?
All allow for high power PSU, some even for redundant PSU – something I am considering. It will be a server after all. However, having red up on these I will go with a normal PSU
Using some rule of thumb, I calculated a need of over 1200W – can this be right?
What kind of power do I need? Using a
I will go for g.skill and put as much as I can in the box
Something good or just stupid?
Question: Should I go with a two Ethernet MB or use an expansion card?
Go or no go? – your take
What raid card set up do you recommend?
Which models of RAID cards do you suggest?
I would really appreciate your feedback on this matter
I know a lot of folks are running WHS 2011 inside a VM but I'm curious if anyone is running a virtual server on Windows Home Server 2011 in order load other OS's.
I have this huge 2011 server and it doesn't do much during the day so I was thinking about running another OS on it to perform some of my media functions. Instead of loading 10 apps on the server I would only load the VM app and then load all the apps in a virtual environment instead of mucking up the server.