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ikon

I was, and am, using Ability Mail Server.

 

Mr. Fixit, I think a telnet test from inside your LAN is a good idea. If you can't connect that way then you have issues. You should be able to try a telnet test by using the console on the Untangle server.

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itGeeks

I was, and am, using Ability Mail Server.

 

Mr. Fixit, I think a telnet test from inside your LAN is a good idea. If you can't connect that way then you have issues. You should be able to try a telnet test by using the console on the Untangle server.

 

ikon,

Thank you for that info. I will check out Ability Mail Server, Have you tried hMailServer and if you have could you please tell me what you liked and did not like compared to Ability Mail Server? Both you and jmwills suggest I try to telnet from Untangle and I would try that however I am not a Linux/Unix guy so I am not sure how to do that in Untangle and furthermore I don't believe its a problem on my internal lan because I can and do send email all day long threw Microsoft Outlook, I am talking about the Outlook that is part of Office not Outlook.com even though I do use outlook.com also. If you have any knowledge on how I telnet threw Untangle I will try it.

 

Thanks for everyone's help

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jmwills

This article on the unTangle forums appears to be a very good trouble shooter.

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ikon

ikon,

Thank you for that info. I will check out Ability Mail Server, Have you tried hMailServer and if you have could you please tell me what you liked and did not like compared to Ability Mail Server? Both you and jmwills suggest I try to telnet from Untangle and I would try that however I am not a Linux/Unix guy so I am not sure how to do that in Untangle and furthermore I don't believe its a problem on my internal lan because I can and do send email all day long threw Microsoft Outlook, I am talking about the Outlook that is part of Office not Outlook.com even though I do use outlook.com also. If you have any knowledge on how I telnet threw Untangle I will try it.

 

Thanks for everyone's help

 

I looked at quite a few free-to-fairly-inexpensive email servers. I think hMailServer was one of them. IIRC, my issue with it was that I just could not get it to accept and use an alternate SMTP port. As with your UT situation, the mail just would not go through.With AMS it was pretty straight forward. I had this issue with several of the ones I tried. Others were simply too expensive.

 

AMS isn't free. I think I paid $140 for it, but I have been running it for a number of years now with zero extra expense, so it's gotten pretty cheap per year.

 

AMS is also not perfect. For example, I sometimes like to embed images inline in emails. Because AMS is HTML based, you can't do that (whereas Outlook can do it all day long). I also wish it was more customizable.

 

On the plus side, AMS can work with, or without, a relational database backend such as SQL Server or MySQL. I run mine without a relational dB (i.e. flat file dB). This has the advantage that it's extremely simple to back up, and it can be moved around with very little effort. All I have to do is copy the AMS folder to a new location and launch the server app. Of course, I have to change my Untangle port redirections if I move AMS to another IP, but that's easy to do. The choice of having a dB backend really hinges on how much traffic the server has to handle. If it's a lot then you want a backend dB; if not (like me, who only has a few mailboxes) then flat file works perfectly.

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Jason

How is Untangle's QoS / traffic shaping? Have yet to find anything better than pfsense.

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ikon

I can't really answer the QoS question; I really don't do any. I'm the only heavy user in the house so it's not much of a concern really.

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darkside34

I am starting to feel more and more like untangle is becoming a web filtering appliance that also happens to be a router.

 

 

I like it, and I think it is a neat project. But PFsense just blows it out of the water in terms of Router/Firewall duties. Plus, untangle is about as granular as a 100kg block of marble.

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geek-accountant

I am starting to feel more and more like untangle is becoming a web filtering appliance that also happens to be a router.

 

 

I like it, and I think it is a neat project. But PFsense just blows it out of the water in terms of Router/Firewall duties. Plus, untangle is about as granular as a 100kg block of marble.

 

 

Exactly why I use pfSense for the router and Untangle to filter. I just like pfSense better. I like the QoS better, the real time reporting is WAY better and for me, it is faster. Untangle did add some real time graphs, but IMO they suck.

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itGeeks

This articleon the unTangle forums appears to be a very good trouble shooter.

 

Thanks for the link.

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I looked at quite a few free-to-fairly-inexpensive email servers. I think hMailServer was one of them. IIRC, my issue with it was that I just could not get it to accept and use an alternate SMTP port. As with your UT situation, the mail just would not go through.With AMS it was pretty straight forward. I had this issue with several of the ones I tried. Others were simply too expensive.

 

AMS isn't free. I think I paid $140 for it, but I have been running it for a number of years now with zero extra expense, so it's gotten pretty cheap per year.

 

AMS is also not perfect. For example, I sometimes like to embed images inline in emails. Because AMS is HTML based, you can't do that (whereas Outlook can do it all day long). I also wish it was more customizable.

 

On the plus side, AMS can work with, or without, a relational database backend such as SQL Server or MySQL. I run mine without a relational dB (i.e. flat file dB). This has the advantage that it's extremely simple to back up, and it can be moved around with very little effort. All I have to do is copy the AMS folder to a new location and launch the server app. Of course, I have to change my Untangle port redirections if I move AMS to another IP, but that's easy to do. The choice of having a dB backend really hinges on how much traffic the server has to handle. If it's a lot then you want a backend dB; if not (like me, who only has a few mailboxes) then flat file works perfectly.

 

ikon, thanks for the great info. I wanted to setup my own email server for some time now but every time I think about what I have to do in order to get it going I just look the other way, I need to setup dynamic DNS because my IP changes from time to time, Then I have to move my hosted domain name to my server and set all that up and then hope my internet service stays up 99% of the time or I wont get emails, I just don't know if the risk is worth it at this point.

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