Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
fblittle

Why Use Paragon Hard Drive Manager 11 Instead of Acronis.

Recommended Posts

fblittle

I Just listened to Podcast #68, where PCDoc talked about Acronis 2012. I just want to add my 2 cents worth here.

 

First let me say that I do not work for or have any affiliation with Paragon, so I have no reason to perfer it over any other software.

 

Although Acronis is a good product I have had much better luck with the Paragon software. I recently did a study for the company I work for about backup software products so I tried all that were not enterprise solutions. Our company produces equipment that are PC controlled and these systems with our own software have a very complicated configuration that requires a huge amount of time to set up properly (as in Weeks, not hours) so having a good backup solution is extremely important. When doing the testing I found that Acronis failed at scheduled, and non-scheduled, network backups more frequently than it succeded. I am not sure why, but Acronis was my first procuct of choice so I was really dissapointed that it failed so frequently. Paragon however almost never fails. This being the case we proceeded to test Paragon to make sure that it was compatible with our software. No Problem!

 

Reasons Why I chose Paragon over Acronis:

 

1. Reliability

2. Help they offered.

3. Selection of products. Hard Drive Manager 11 is the best.

4. Options that Acronis offered for a price were included with Paragon, Like "Restore to Dissimilar Equipment", and RAID support, Win PE Recovery (Windows Pre-Install Enviornment).

5. More Tools for Geeks like us. Hard Drive Manager can do many things with the hard drive. Re-partition on the fly, Clone, Wipe the drive, Defrag, make VMDs (virtual Disks), as in Physical to Virtual, Virtual Adjust (so that it will make sure that it will work on the VM software that you are using). It can Clone from any size Drive to any size Drive, it doesn't have to be larger, it can be smaller as long as the data fits, Win PE recovery enviornment(Windows Pre-install Enviornment).

6.Trial Software proved its Superiority for me.

7. Last but not least Price. Paragon is cheaper than Acronis by a good margin. Also if you want all the extras that Arconis offeres that can double your cost. With Paragon it is all included. Hard Drive Manager Pro is kind of expensive, but they offer other products line Hard Drive Manager Suite that is about 1/2 the price, and does almost all the things that Pro does. They have a comparison on their web site that you can use to compare. Also you can find Backup and Restore Home version for around $20 depending on if you can find it on sale or not and "Restore to Dissimilar Equipment" is still included.

 

Give it a look and try.

Edited by fblittle
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
krom

Great Info. Thanks for the post as it's always good to have options.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
timekills

Well, maybe you should work for Paragon. You've sold me on at least trying it out.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
pcdoc

I Just listened to Podcast #68, where PCDoc talked about Acronis 2012. I just want to add my 2 cents worth here.

 

First let me say that I do not work for or have any affiliation with Paragon, so I have no reason to perfer it over any other software.

 

Although Acronis is a good product I have had much better luck with the Paragon software. I recently did a study for the company I work for about backup software products so I tried all that were not enterprise solutions. Our company produces equipment that are PC controlled and these systems with our own software have a very complicated configuration that requires a huge amount of time to set up properly (as in Weeks, not hours) so having a good backup solution is extremely important. When doing the testing I found that Acronis failed at scheduled, and non-scheduled, network backups more frequently than it succeded. I am not sure why, but Acronis was my first procuct of choice so I was really dissapointed that it failed so frequently. Paragon however almost never fails. This being the case we proceeded to test Paragon to make sure that it was compatible with our software. No Problem!

 

Reasons Why I chose Paragon over Acronis:

 

1. Reliability

2. Help they offered.

3. Selection of products. Hard Drive Manager 11 is the best.

4. Options that Acronis offered for a price were included with Paragon, Like "Restore to Dissimilar Equipment", and RAID support, Win PE Recovery (Windows Pre-Install Enviornment).

5. More Tools for Geeks like us. Hard Drive Manager can do many things with the hard drive. Re-partition on the fly, Clone, Wipe the drive, Defrag, make VMDs (virtual Disks), as in Physical to Virtual, Virtual Adjust (so that it will make sure that it will work on the VM software that you are using). It can Clone from any size Drive to any size Drive, it doesn't have to be larger, it can be smaller as long as the data fits, Win PE recovery enviornment(Windows Pre-install Enviornment).

6.Trial Software proved its Superiority for me.

7. Last but not least Price. Paragon is cheaper than Acronis by a good margin. Also if you want all the extras that Arconis offeres that can double your cost. With Paragon it is all included. Hard Drive Manager Pro is kind of expensive, but they offer other products line Hard Drive Manager Suite that is about 1/2 the price, and does almost all the things that Pro does. They have a comparison on their web site that you can use to compare. Also you can find Backup and Restore Home version for around $20 depending on if you can find it on sale or not and "Restore to Dissimilar Equipment" is still included.

 

Give it a look and try.

 

Very nice write up. Although I have not seen the reliability concerns you have, I certainly will try download and try this. With discount pricing they are actually both about the same as Amazon sells Acronis for $19. I certainly love to try new software so I will try this and do my own comparison based on different needs. You are obviously on a larger scale than I am which says something. Thanks for the detailed write up and will update with my own thoughts so we can compare notes. After all it is about ease of use and value. Thanks for the post.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
pcdoc

Update. I downloaded and installed the paragon software. After running a few gyrations with it I can say I am overall impressed and I think as fblittle stated, that it is a very solid piece of software. I will say that based on running both, you should try the trial version of both before deciding. I found they approach things very differently. For starters, partial selection of a drive is more straight forward in Acronis. As long as you know what Disk ID is (careful as it is not drive letter) the backup wizard in Paragon is easy which prevents you from getting into too much trouble, and it is very fast. The backup of my OS drive took about 4 mins to backup. Pretty impressive. My first impression is that either of these will work better at a quick recovery over WHS but they are different enough that it will be a personal choice to a large degree. Both have their strengths but they are different. Try them both and see which better suites your particular needs. Definitely a nice find and again thanks to fblittle for pointing it out. I will continue to play more with Paragon and see how I like in the next couple of weeks.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
fblittle

PCDOC, Thanks for the kind words. I am not sure why I experienced the reliability issues, maybe a fluke, but I experienced it at work and at home in different situations. What happened is that Acronis could not find the network path and folder so it gave up on the backup more than 1/2 the time, at first I thought it was my WHS2011 but it did it at one place where I work at on a *.gov network as well. Maybe not conclusive, but that was my experience. However, I installed Paragon on the same machine and backed up to the same network folder and it completed the full as well as differential backups everytime. By contrast, I also used Ghost and it did completed all the backups, but failed frequently on the restore. What good is a Backup image if you can't rely on the restore being good?

 

After My Post I realized that I didn't mention the restore function. For Backup and Recovery software, Recovery is probably even more important than Backup for obvious reasons, if you can't recover there is no need to Backup. So Recovery is worth a mention.

 

Paragon uses Archive files for the sector based images. They start with arc_******.PBF the archive is automatically named with a date and time code which can be altered to what ever you want before the backup is started. When the archive is finished it is recorded in the UI under the Archive tab as a archive file so that it can be selected for a recovery or it can be used to create a differential of incremental backup using the full disk archive as a base archive to start from. You can exclued any files you want in the Exclued settings and comperss the archive as well. I have used the most aggressive compression and it doesn't add that much time to the backup, especially if it is backing up at nite while your asleep, but it can save you a lot of space.

 

Paragon provides a second file with the download that will make a DVD boot disk to recover your machine with, in fact they provide two different methods to recover with the WinPE disk is made with the file they provide with the download, the second is made from the UI and is not a Win PE recovery disk, this disk is based on Linux, but works as also but with less features.

 

When your hard disk fails you can just replace the drive and run the Win PE recovery disk that you made. You can make this disk at any time even after your hard disk fails. When you boot with this disk it is like installing windows, you get the "Starting Windows" screen, then it transitions into the Paragon UI, it works and looks just like the desktop version, so it is easy to use if you are used to the desktop version. There is a restore Wizard that you use to recover with, it is just as easy as the "Smart Backup" Wizard, but in reverse. Recovery takes only a few minutes from a network, USB, or second disk(SATA Port), archive.

 

The reason I like Paragon for recovery better is the "Adaptive Restore" tool That means you can either recover your system with a new disk, or you can install your system on a new PC and Adaptive Restore will find the drivers for your new PC so that you can boot the Old OS on the new PC. You may need to replace some drivers later to optomize things, or install drivers non-essential for booting later, but you can boot into your old PC enviornment on your new PC.

 

This function is really important for us at work because the customer may have an old PC that dies or becomes outdated. We can take that backup archive and install it to a new PC even if the drives were of a different type. This can save hours of work. Acronis has this function as well, but most people don't have it because it is an add on called "Plus Pack" and is an additional $20 or so. I haven't used the Acronis version, but I am sure that it works as well. Of course Paragon claims that for some reason that theirs works better. I think it's because of their Virtual adjust technology.

 

The last feature that I want to mention for a few people here that run virtual machines is a feature that other products may have as well called P2V and V2P and V2V and P2P and OS to SSD. V = Virtual, and P = Physical, so you can backup your OS to a VMD and run it on your Virtual Machine for testing. You can store your Physical machine in a Virtual Disk and recover from it, or run it on your VM and restore it later.

 

There are so many features to this software the they can't all be mentioned here or you would fall asleep before your were done reading, Maybe you already have? I will if I don't quit now.

Edited by fblittle

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
ikon

great info fblittle, thanks for taking the time to inform all of us.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
lisjachij

Hey guys, both software are good, the question arise when it comes to errors and how they are fixed by support... this comparison may help

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

Sign in to follow this  

  • Similar Content

    • judgeschambers
      By judgeschambers
      Hello, 
       
      Per my signature, I have WHS 2011 installed on a HP N54L that I built and have had in service since March 2013.  I have a CorsAir  60Gb SSD HD running on SATA #5 with the modded bios to allow  WHIS to install  on this small OS hard drive.
      I have a WD PCI-e USB 3.0 card with a 3 yr old Seagate Backup Plus 2Tb drive connected that WHS places the Server OS backups to. 
      The problems:
      With Windows updates, the 60 gb SSD has only 5 gb space available and I'm getting warnings as such. So, I want to install a new Sandisk 240 gb SSD to replace it.  When I run the WHS Server disk, the restore server OS process either locks up looking for the files on the Seagate usb drive or does not discover the files and the scan just runs and runs.   
      The processes:
      I remove all my storage drives from the N54L four bays.  Swap the old 60gb OS SSD for the new 240 GB SSD Plug in my LG portable DVD drive into the rear USB 2.0 and use it to spin the WHS disc Connect the Seagate Backup Plus USB 3.0 Drive to the N54L (this is where it takes four paths and all fail) (bios is configured prior for proper boot sequence of DVD first, new OS SSD 2nd) Since USB drives are backwards compatible, if it is connected to the N54L 2nd remaining 2.0 USB from boot up (post screen shows the DVD, the new SSD and the Segate USB Drive), I select Restore Files in the back up menu the screen goes black except for the WHS background image. Sits and never resolves.  Or leave the Seagate USB drive unconnected until I get to the Restore Files menu, connect, then select restore files/etc. The  scanning for back  up files dialog runs this time and never finds the files. Only way to get out is to hard reboot the server.  Same as #2 but skip the  initial file search and click advanced. Connect the USB  dirve and then click refresh and nothing shows up. Click scan and it too will run forever and not see the drive with the backup files.  Or resort to installing the PCIe drivers via a thumb drive and then connect the drive to the PCIe USB 3 and it will not recognize it in the list. Click search and it searches without success.   
      I'm thinking I need to transfer the WHS OS Backup files on the Seagate Backup Plus USB drive onto another bare hard drive and insert into one of the N54L HD bays and see if it will then find the backup files. Thus eliminating the whole USB 3/2 interface. 
       
      Thoughts?  
      Thanks in advance. 
    • ShadowPeo
      By ShadowPeo
      Browsing around my Synology App store yesterday and what did I notice, but they now have Acronis integrated directly and officially supported, not even 1000 downloads on this thing yet. I do not use Acronis personally, But the integration gives me the thought to try it out, especially for mobile devices.
       

       
      The other one that got my attention was Eynio (https://eynio.com) server which does home automation and tablet control panels utilising web apps. I have not successfully got this working yet *its installed and running at least officially, but I cannot connect to the web interface for some reason. It integrates with a bunch of Home Automation stuff (https://eynio.com/wp/devices/) and it looks like exactly what I have been wanting for a while, now if I can just get into it and make it work
       

    • Orion
      By Orion
      I am thinking about getting a synology nas to store music pictures and videos. I would like to be able to use iTunes and iPhoto in my Mac to manage those files. Then i will use plex to manage my video files in the server. 
      Is there a format I can make my disks to read well in both Mac and pc?
    • MattG
      By MattG
      Had my server on a shelf for a while during a recent move.  Just got it plugged back in and updated.  This was an (admittedly overkill) replacement for a Windows Home Server that I adored but would not work with recent upgrades to my family's computers.

      At the moment all the server is doing is file storage and nightly backups of my family's computers.

      What I'm trying to remember is how to lock client backups so they don't get deleted.  Used to be an easy thing to do with my WHS, but this is obviously a much more comprehensive OS so I'm a bit out of my league here.  What I would do is a fresh install, then image the computer so that when it needed to be "refreshed" I could simply restore that initial install and go from there.

      Where is the option to lock or unlock a backup?

      Thank you for your help!!
       
      -Matt
    • osquest1488993265
      By osquest1488993265
      There's a discussion about backing up Windows RT going on over at the Home Server Show forums. While we probably don't want a lot of cross-posting this seems like a perfect topic for this forum.
       
      For myself,
      I don't plan to have too much that needs backing up directly from the Surface RT. I'll use Skydrive whenever possible and most other apps that interest me (based on my iPad) already have a sharing/cloud component or don't have any data. Apps themselves will be in the store. That leaves just settings and any apps that have all their data local.
       
      Anyone else considered backups?


×