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First off, I should say I love the podcasts, been listening since day one, but never bothered to join the forums, or the live show chat (except once before and this past week). But I'll be around here and there a lot more often from now on. Looks like this is the place to be, to get some questions answered, and maybe impart my POV on a few things.

 

.............that being said:

 

With the recent showing of Windows 8 and Server 8, and the possible pending debocale if MS doesn't explain Metro properly sooner than later; I started to think about Server 8 as it relates to Metro. I could only imagine Metro being useful in a status monitor role for Server 8. A multi-touch enabled LCD monitor attached to the front of the server rack with tiles for temperature, CPU, network utilization, etc. And all also being run on a Windows 8 tablet or phone, for remote maintenance. But that's all elementary, I mean, we all see this coming, a lot of it we have now.

 

But, as I'm finally about to install Windows Home Server 2011, and rebuild my RAID on it, I started thinking about what add-ins I want to install. And that's when Metro crossed my mind again. If/when the next iteration of WHS comes along, it's going to be Server 8-based. So then, what will happen to the add-in system we have now? Will it become fully-Metro-based? When I look at the WHS server console, I see the possibility of that being killed for Metro tiles.

 

I held off on WHS v1 because 2011 was on its way, and many add-ins had to be updated or replaced, so I didn't want to get used to something that may very well change. (Drive Extender didn't appeal to me, as I'm on the pro-RAID side of the fence anyway) And while I don't fear the next WHS once again flipping things upside down, I started thinking how possible it is that the add-in system that we know today could be totally replaced with something Metro-based, or even WHS as a whole being swallowed up and replaced with a lesser 'edition' of Server 8 (more akin to the editions of Vista and 7) that has the core feature set of WHS via Metro-based apps?

 

Am I on the mark, or what? I want to know what you all think.

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I will inject a few thoughts here. First, I think that even if the next WHS is Metro based, it will still have to support service level add ins of some sorts much like Server 8, however it may display it as a live tile which would not be a bad thing. Having an interface that gave you everything in one shot would be sort of nice and in some ways better than the console. I am pretty sure that all the addins will have to be re-written or modified to take advantage of this technology but the way things are headed, my "guess" is that it will be a couple of years before we see a new WHS assuming that is the direction they go. I do not disagree with your speculations and only time will tell but from what I have seen so far, we are certainly better off than we were and I honestly believe that in a couple years, we will ahead of things again although be it different. In the mean time, enjoy WHS 2011 as it is a great program and for what it's worth, you are on the right side of the fence... Glad you join and sharing your POV.

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first off, thank you for participating... bout time! j/k :) Welcome.

 

I do feel, just as you described, that Metro could be a real boost to server administration. I can just imagine green, amber, and red backgrounds on tiles, that you can see from quite a distance, that will tell if a particular server is completely healthy, etc., etc. Seems like an improvement to me.

 

As far as rewriting is concerned, thedemo at build indicated that it might not be very hard at all to "Metro-fy" add-ins. I hope that's true.

 

That all said, I'm finding the Metro interface a bit clunky to use with mouse & keyboard. At first I was thinking "cool" but it's gotten less appealing as I use it more, at least as a desktop interface — as a tablet GUI, and granting that I haven't used it on a tablet yet, it does seem pretty good.

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If you have to log onto a server to see if you have issues, that's unacceptable. You are already getting alerts from WHS, SBSE, and SBS for issues so why have a colored tiled to me I have an issue to look at. Just my opinion.

 

I've fired up a virtual copy of Windows 8 and so far, its ho humm for me. Not too interested at this point.

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If you have to log onto a server to see if you have issues, that's unacceptable. You are already getting alerts from WHS, SBSE, and SBS for issues so why have a colored tiled to me I have an issue to look at. Just my opinion.

 

I've fired up a virtual copy of Windows 8 and so far, its ho humm for me. Not too interested at this point.

I think the techniques people use to manage their servers vary, especially with the size of the server farm. I can picture a small farm where each server has a monitor and the admnistrators being able to just glance at the monitors as they're doing other tasks. But you're right, it won't be applicable to all situations.

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I think the techniques people use to manage their servers vary, especially with the size of the server farm. I can picture a small farm where each server has a monitor and the admnistrators being able to just glance at the monitors as they're doing other tasks. But you're right, it won't be applicable to all situations.

 

 

Most server farms have one monitor.....if you're lucky

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Most server farms have one monitor.....if you're lucky

I've worked in a variety of server rooms; the number of monitors has varied. Generally, I would say the more servers, the fewer the monitors.

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