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Gigabyte board for WHS 2011

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Hi,

I am a long-term WHS user but new to the forum, so "hello" to everyone. I have been using the HP EX 475 since almost the day it was released. While I am still very happy with my v1, I am looking for a new WHS 2011 rig for the future. So I have looked around for the past months and gathered some of the less important equipment while on sale: HD drive, DVD drive, case, graphics card, power supply.

 

Now I am getting to the heart of the system. I was impressed of the 35 W power consumption by the new sandybridge core i3-2100T and would like to use it. I was thinking about sticking this in a Gigabyte motherboard GIGABYTE GA-H67MA-USB3-B3 LGA 1155 Intel H67 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116394). Looking on the Gigabyte web site, I did not see any drivers for Server 2008 and got nervous. Does anyone know whether this board will work for WHS 2011? Are the driver included in the WHS 2011 install dvd? Or do I simply need to go to the intel web site and download the chipset specific drivers?

 

Any insight is greatly appreciated.

 

rev

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Hi,

I am a long-term WHS user but new to the forum, so "hello" to everyone. I have been using the HP EX 475 since almost the day it was released. While I am still very happy with my v1, I am looking for a new WHS 2011 rig for the future. So I have looked around for the past months and gathered some of the less important equipment while on sale: HD drive, DVD drive, case, graphics card, power supply.

 

Now I am getting to the heart of the system. I was impressed of the 35 W power consumption by the new sandybridge core i3-2100T and would like to use it. I was thinking about sticking this in a Gigabyte motherboard GIGABYTE GA-H67MA-USB3-B3 LGA 1155 Intel H67 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116394). Looking on the Gigabyte web site, I did not see any drivers for Server 2008 and got nervous. Does anyone know whether this board will work for WHS 2011? Are the driver included in the WHS 2011 install dvd? Or do I simply need to go to the intel web site and download the chipset specific drivers?

 

Any insight is greatly appreciated.

 

rev

 

As far as drivers go, Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 are the same thing. Now whether Gigabyte's installer will let you install those drivers with their utility is another thing. But worst comes to worst, you can always go into Device Manager and install them yourself.

 

Also, the wattage ratings you see on CPUs is for heat dissipation, not power draw of the actual CPU (which is often much much lower, especially at idle). It's a lot more important for OEMs so they don't pair a warmer chip with an inadequate cooling solution when they build computers with smaller form factors (or any laptop for that matter). With normal desktops, the stock fan is usually almost always adequate.

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As far as drivers go, Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 are the same thing. Now whether Gigabyte's installer will let you install those drivers with their utility is another thing. But worst comes to worst, you can always go into Device Manager and install them yourself.

 

Also, the wattage ratings you see on CPUs is for heat dissipation, not power draw of the actual CPU (which is often much much lower, especially at idle). It's a lot more important for OEMs so they don't pair a warmer chip with an inadequate cooling solution when they build computers with smaller form factors (or any laptop for that matter). With normal desktops, the stock fan is usually almost always adequate.

 

Thanks for the reply, no more worries about the driver.

 

As for the wattage, I did not realize that this was the number for heat dissipation, although your explanation makes perfect sense. All things being equal, I would think that the heat dissipation is roughly proportional to the power consumption. Or are the thermal designs so different between versions that this is not the case?

 

I thought the i3 was a good middle-of-the-road server solution. However, I am not set on it and if you have a better CPU suggestion, I am all ear!

 

Thx,

rev

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Hi,

I am a long-term WHS user but new to the forum, so "hello" to everyone. I have been using the HP EX 475 since almost the day it was released. While I am still very happy with my v1, I am looking for a new WHS 2011 rig for the future. So I have looked around for the past months and gathered some of the less important equipment while on sale: HD drive, DVD drive, case, graphics card, power supply.

 

Now I am getting to the heart of the system. I was impressed of the 35 W power consumption by the new sandybridge core i3-2100T and would like to use it. I was thinking about sticking this in a Gigabyte motherboard GIGABYTE GA-H67MA-USB3-B3 LGA 1155 Intel H67 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116394). Looking on the Gigabyte web site, I did not see any drivers for Server 2008 and got nervous. Does anyone know whether this board will work for WHS 2011? Are the driver included in the WHS 2011 install dvd? Or do I simply need to go to the intel web site and download the chipset specific drivers?

 

Any insight is greatly appreciated.

 

rev

 

 

I have this exact board and CPU in my server. I just put it in a couple of days ago and it has been great. The standard drivers will support all versions of windows including 2008. There no issue with drivers or using this board. Good luck.

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Thanks for the reply, no more worries about the driver.

 

As for the wattage, I did not realize that this was the number for heat dissipation, although your explanation makes perfect sense. All things being equal, I would think that the heat dissipation is roughly proportional to the power consumption. Or are the thermal designs so different between versions that this is not the case?

 

I thought the i3 was a good middle-of-the-road server solution. However, I am not set on it and if you have a better CPU suggestion, I am all ear!

 

Thx,

rev

 

True, heat dissipation is proportional to power consumption, however in a Windows Home Server setting, the CPU is rarely going to be taxed at 100% unless you are doing video encoding on it. Otherwise, it's mostly going to be idling, and the top-of-the-line Intel Sandy Bridge i7 2600K is going to use just as much power as the i3 2100T. In fact, because the 2600K is more powerful, it should ramp up and complete it's task faster, thus using less CPU power in the end. Only with sustained tasks (i.e. server workloads) will the 2600K use more power. It's very similar reasoning as to why dual and quad core chips don't instantly 1/2 battery life like most people think they would. The faster a specific task is completed, the more time is spent in a low power state. A bit counter-intuitive, but that's how it works.

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True, heat dissipation is proportional to power consumption, however in a Windows Home Server setting, the CPU is rarely going to be taxed at 100% unless you are doing video encoding on it. Otherwise, it's mostly going to be idling, and the top-of-the-line Intel Sandy Bridge i7 2600K is going to use just as much power as the i3 2100T. In fact, because the 2600K is more powerful, it should ramp up and complete it's task faster, thus using less CPU power in the end. Only with sustained tasks (i.e. server workloads) will the 2600K use more power. It's very similar reasoning as to why dual and quad core chips don't instantly 1/2 battery life like most people think they would. The faster a specific task is completed, the more time is spent in a low power state. A bit counter-intuitive, but that's how it works.

 

Good analogy. Although what you are saying is true in concept, there is still a difference in the out of the wall power usage between the 2100T and 2600 when idling and when asked to transcode or perform some other tasks the power out of the wall difference is greater yet. Sandy Bridge is however overall the most power efficient chip yet to be delivered and make good choice overall in a server. As for which one is up to user. As you stated, the CPU idle most of the time so I would go with most power savings in a home server application unless you have further plans for your server such as web serving or VMs... Just my two cents.

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Good analogy. Although what you are saying is true in concept, there is still a difference in the out of the wall power usage between the 2100T and 2600 when idling and when asked to transcode or perform some other tasks the power out of the wall difference is greater yet. Sandy Bridge is however overall the most power efficient chip yet to be delivered and make good choice overall in a server. As for which one is up to user. As you stated, the CPU idle most of the time so I would go with most power savings in a home server application unless you have further plans for your server such as web serving or VMs... Just my two cents.

 

Yep. I have Air Video Server transcoding 1080i WTV recordings to my iPad and found that the dual core i3 2100T didn't cut it. As MicroCenter wasn't likely to be happy with me constantly swapping new CPUs "just to test them out", I went with the i5 2500K and it works great!

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Some good thoughts up above. I do anticipate the machine to be idle most of the time. I do not anticipate the need for real-time video transcoding any time soon. I think for now I will stick with the 2100T idea. I can always replace it in the future with an i5 if needed.

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Yep. I have Air Video Server transcoding 1080i WTV recordings to my iPad and found that the dual core i3 2100T didn't cut it. As MicroCenter wasn't likely to be happy with me constantly swapping new CPUs "just to test them out", I went with the i5 2500K and it works great!

 

I assume you have air video running on your server? I am surprised that the 2100 did not cut it. Where you pegging the CPU monitor? I have not tried 1080i and I know it is tougher to transcode but I have tried 1080P, 720P, and 480P on it and it works well. Thanks for the insight.

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I assume you have air video running on your server? I am surprised that the 2100 did not cut it. Where you pegging the CPU monitor? I have not tried 1080i and I know it is tougher to transcode but I have tried 1080P, 720P, and 480P on it and it works well. Thanks for the insight.

 

CPU was maxing out at about 80-90% while my content was stopping every 5 to 10 seconds and I too was surprised it didn't work that well. My older setup involved streaming content for transcoding from my old WHS server to my HTPC which has an older Intel Core 2 Quad 2.33Ghz and that worked fine. I really think that while hyperthreading is great in getting more performance from unused core resources, hardware cores win every time.

 

It may also have to do with the resolution I was transcoding to. I was going from 1080i to either 1024x768 (iPad) or 960x640 (iPhone 4). I never tested lower resolutions as I returned the CPU the next day for the i5 2500K.

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