Apologies for hijacking a new thread as I couldn’t easily find an existing post which described this..
I have an original HP Microserver N36L from 2012 that am Iooking to upgrade to a Gen 10 Plus.
In the N36L I have added a Smart Array P410 with 256MB FBWC (via ebay) configured with 4 x 2TB WD Green drives with RAID5 (6TB logical) along with a 256GB SSD as a boot system drive in the ODD bay (with the BIOS mod of course) plus a PCIe x1 video card.
The server is running Windows Server 2012 R2 but looking to uplift to 2019 (and maybe 2022 once it comes out) for general home enthusiast use mainly as a file server and to test VMs for labs.
Am I able to “lift and shift” the drive array subsystem from the old to new server? I have done this on the DL380s in the past as the controllers and drives hold the RAID config.
I guess I’m happy to get a new boot SSD if required (maybe boot issues between AMD and Intel CPU) but may have constraints mentioned below with the 5th interface.
Have read from the various great posts by schoondoggy etc. that the P410 has issues with UEFI etc, so looking at a compatible option that’s not the “latest and greatest” eg something that can bought via ebay second-hand and relatively inexpensive (the E208i-p maybe stretching it…) and can of course read the existing RAID5 array config from the drives.
Once moved across, I plan to progressively update them to larger HDD or SSDs and use the Smart Array expansion utility to expand the RAID-5 logical drive size once array rebuilds are complete.
From what I understand I can’t add the 5th drive as there is no onboard NVMe or SATA connector. There is USB3 to boot off a thumb drive of course which is great for VMWare ESXi but maybe not for Windows…
If I add the Smart Array card I guess it may limit my options as I understand it only has one PCIe x16 slot so can’t do both.
Does anyone have any suggestions or other techniques (for example I’m not fussed with the expansion iLo slot but I think dedicated for that purpose only)?
I have also looked at some of the great Servethehome reviews and benchmarks too but these are early 2020 and things may have evolved since then.
Thanks in advance!
All credit to schoondoggy for his original idea. A shame I am on the wrong side of the Atlantic to order an SDM kit as the import duties make it an expensive option, or would have if they were still available. I had to look around to see what alternatives I could find... and managed to find the bits needed on Amazon!
I must admit I am rather pleased with the end result of this project and may repeat it on the other Gen8 MicroServer. The outcome is a server with a mirrored system drive on the internal B120i, and the main drive bays connected to an HP P222 card providing a RAID-10 data volume. This is pretty much my ideal setup for a stable resilient but small server.
Sabrent 3.5" to x2 SSD Internal Mounting Kit (BK-HDCC)
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Amazon US - https://amzn.to/3h8Blom
The kit comes with all the cabling you need and all the required screws to mount the drives and bracket.
Two types of power splitter cables are included along with two SATA cables. The bracket holds two SSDs and provides a small gap between them.
I mounted the bracket next to the PSU but leaving a 2-3mm gap to allow for some airflow past the SSDs in case they get warmed by the P222.
Put some insulating tape along the underneath of the upper chassis rail next to the PSU and drilled three small holes.
I used two strips on to stop the drill bit from walking across the metal. Drill with a 2mm first then a 2.5mm bit. This leaves enough metal for screws to thread in.
Check and measure each hole against the bracket as you go so that they line up. Bracket is then fixed in place using the provided screws (see photo).
The final part of the puzzle is another Mini-SAS to SATA cable the same as the one connected to the internal drive bays.
This is an SFF-8087 Mini-SAS [male] connector to 4 SATA [female] header cables. The 50cm cable from Jyopto works great and not too much spare to lose within the system.
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I could not find it on Amazon US site but there was one from CableCreations that same length.
Just need to add your choice of SSDs and cable up to B120i port. I went with Samsung 860 Pro SSDs for the longer rated lifespan of write cycles.
I decided to forget about an internal DVD/RW drive and opted for an external HP F2B56AA slimline drive that can be plugged into the USB of either system.
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Amazon US - https://amzn.to/326uFmL
Sabrent also make a really good quality 2.5" to 3.5" bay converter adapter (BK-PCBS) that I have used in the EX490/X510 to convert from HDD to SSD system drives.
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Amazon US - https://amzn.to/335kXQz
Hopefully this information will prove useful to some looking to update their MicroServer.
Does anyone know if it is possible to get Agentless Management Service (AMS) running on Debian/Ubuntu Linux? It is always showing as Not Available in the iLO page and I have only ever seen this active in Windows.
Has anyone around here been successful in setting up Proxmox on a Gen8 using a HBA for storage?
I'm putting together a build for a non-profit client and I want to make sure they're getting the best bang for their bucks.
HP MicroServer N40L 8 GB WS2012E Plextor PX-256M5Pro SSD - OS drive SAMSUNG HD103SI 1TB (x2) - Data drives (Storage Spaces) WDC WD20EZRX 2TB (x2) - Data drives (Storage Spaces)
On the new server, I'd like to setup the OS on SSDs (RAID 1) for speed and redundancy. Trying to squeeze extra SSDs on the Gen 10 Plus lead me to using the PCIe card. I guess on the Gen 10 there's enough room and SATA connections to put a couple of SSDs in the Optical bay instead. And, I'm leaving 1 drive bay empty to add another 2 TB should they need it, which is not likely.
New Server Option 1 ($2084 CDN):
HP MicroServer Gen 10 X3418 (P07203-001) 8 GB 8 GB Module - DDR4 2400MHz (Kingston KTH-PL424E/8G) WS2016E StarTech.com Dual M.2 PCIe SSD Adapter Card - x8 / x16 Dual NVMe or AHCI M.2 SSD to PCI Express 3.0 - RAID & JBOD (PEX8M2E2) Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe M.2 Internal SSD (MZ-V7E500BW) (x2) - OS Drives (RAID 1) WD Gold 2TB (x3) - Data drives (Storage Spaces, or can I RAID 5 them?)
New Server Option 2 ($2362):
HP MicroServer Gen 10 Plus (P16006-001) 16 GB WS2016E StarTech.com Dual M.2 PCIe SSD Adapter Card - x8 / x16 Dual NVMe or AHCI M.2 SSD to PCI Express 3.0 - RAID & JBOD (PEX8M2E2) Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe M.2 Internal SSD (MZ-V7E500BW) (x2) - OS Drives (RAID 1) WD Gold 2TB (x3) - Data drives (Storage Spaces, or can I RAID 5 them?)
So two questions for all of you:
If anything, what would you change and why? For the extra $278 (13% more), is the Gen 10 Plus worth it?