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Is it possible to install any PCIe SATA card and boot from an attached SSD instead of internal MicroSD/USB/ODD?

 

Are there any special requirements needed to boot from an SSD connected to a cheap PCIe SATA III card?

 

Are there any limitations?

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You need to confirm that the card is bootable.

Instead of a cheap PCIe SATA card, you could use a LSI HBA, start around $30. Connect the four drive bays to the LSI and run the SSD from port 1 of the onboard SATA controller. 

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32 minutes ago, schoondoggy said:

You need to confirm that the card is bootable.

Instead of a cheap PCIe SATA card, you could use a LSI HBA, start around $30. Connect the four drive bays to the LSI and run the SSD from port 1 of the onboard SATA controller. 


Something like this?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/383300848179

 

Do you know if these things get hot/affect the fan speed?

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59 minutes ago, E3000 said:


Something like this?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/383300848179

 

Do you know if these things get hot/affect the fan speed?

 

No, the cables go upwards which makes it very difficult to squeeze into the space and the installed drive cage cable may not reach.

Look for an HBA SAS 4i card where the connector is at the end of the card and has a half-height bracket like this ...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LSI-SAS2004-4i-9211-4i-6Gbps-4-Ports-HBA-PCI-E-SATA-SAS-RAID-Controller-Card/132059422421

 

I recently updated my Gen 8 with a 4i card and also got an 8i (two 4i channels) card for my ML310e Gen 8 and the heatsink does get hotter, but 4i runs cooler in the Microserver Gen 8

 

Also are you running RAID? If not, get a card described as 'External IT' mode so it can see your HDDs. For me it is a nightmare to update the firmware and switch to IT mode, so try to find one already programmed to latest 20.0.7 firmware and IT

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10 minutes ago, TomP said:

 

No, the cables go upwards which makes it very difficult to squeeze into the space and the installed drive cage cable may not reach.

Look for an HBA SAS 4i card where the connector is at the end of the card and has a half-height bracket like this ...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LSI-SAS2004-4i-9211-4i-6Gbps-4-Ports-HBA-PCI-E-SATA-SAS-RAID-Controller-Card/132059422421

 

I recently updated my Gen 8 with a 4i card and also got an 8i (two 4i channels) card for my ML310e Gen 8 and the heatsink does get hotter, but 4i runs cooler in the Microserver Gen 8

 

Also are you running RAID? If not, get a card described as 'External IT' mode so it can see your HDDs. For me it is a nightmare to update the firmware and switch to IT mode, so try to find one already programmed to latest 20.0.7 firmware and IT


Thanks Tom and Schoon,

No, I am not running RAID.

So something like this then? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/123823862045
 

Btw how much hotter does your 4i get? What is your fan speed?

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37 minutes ago, E3000 said:


Thanks Tom and Schoon,

No, I am not running RAID.

So something like this then? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/123823862045
 

Btw how much hotter does your 4i get? What is your fan speed?

 

As I said above it is the 8i card that gets hotter because it has two 4i channels for 8 internal HDD.

 

The card you mention is 4i(nternal) plus 4e(xternal) so I suspect that it will be as hot as the 8i card.

 

I'm not sure what my fan speed is as I've no idea how to find it (maybe somewhere in ILO4?) but neither of my Gen 8 sound noisy.

 

By the way, when I had B120i enabled, Stablebit Scanner could not find the hard drives until I installed the 4i card.

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15 minutes ago, TomP said:

 

As I said above it is the 8i card that gets hotter because it has two 4i channels for 8 internal HDD.

 

The card you mention is 4i(nternal) plus 4e(xternal) so I suspect that it will be as hot as the 8i card.

 

I'm not sure what my fan speed is as I've no idea how to find it (maybe somewhere in ILO4?) but neither of my Gen 8 sound noisy.

 

By the way, when I had B120i enabled, Stablebit Scanner could not find the hard drives until I installed the 4i card.


Can you still obtain SMART data when using the 4i card?

 

I guess this is more like it: 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/123902981665

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9 hours ago, E3000 said:


Can you still obtain SMART data when using the 4i card?

 

I guess this is more like it: 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/123902981665

 

That looks identical to the one I bought. Speedpak delivery from China is quicker and with good tracking as it seems to be air freight.

 

Yes, I can now see SMART data which I could not while using B120i for the HDD cage.

 

A side note, I also transitioned from B120i to AHCI and the OS HDD was not recognised by Win 10. I could not find any way round this until in desperation, I tried my backup Win 10 OS drive from my AHCI gen 8 ML310e and it worked perfectly !! W 10 install on the AHCI ML310e was seamless with no drivers needed, so I guess B120i and its firmware / driver is doing something proprietary / unfriendly.

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Thanks Tom.
 

My main concern is the heat/fan speed. I will be using drives singular, not in any RAID array, and if I were to use RAID it would be a software solution rather than hardware managed by the card or B120i. Is this card still the best solution for what I want to do?


 

17 hours ago, schoondoggy said:

You need to confirm that the card is bootable.

Instead of a cheap PCIe SATA card, you could use a LSI HBA, start around $30. Connect the four drive bays to the LSI and run the SSD from port 1 of the onboard SATA controller. 

 

Would I need to purchase any additional cables to do this?

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