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Change of microserver G8 to tower, options.

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Robertomcat

Hello good day!

I currently own a G8 microserver, in which you already know that it only has four bays. In some moments I have thought of adding an external box with four more bays, but I do not like to have a server in pieces, and the power supply is only 200W.

I am considering the change to a tower, since I will update four 6TB WD RED disks that work perfectly and I would not like to sell them, I would like to be able to add them to a tower with eight bays.

In addition, in the micro server I have two RAM modules of 8GB, one P420 (I also have the P410 in a drawer) and the E3-1265L-V2 processor, so if you find a tower compatible with any of these components, better .

If someone can help me find the perfect model of a G8 tower (which is the smallest tower model possible), I would really appreciate it. At the moment they are only ideas that I have in my head, but I am rethinking it.

Thank you very much and greetings!

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Robertomcat

Good Morning!

In the end I decided to buy the HPE ML110 Gen9, specifically the model P8Y78A. If there is a problem with this type of server, please, comment it. I have a few questions related to this server, to see if someone can help me.

1.- The server already has a box with four bays for LFF disks, and I would like to add another additional box to complete the eight bays. I have been searching the Internet but everything I find is very expensive and there are few references. Could you find third-party manufacturer boxes for this server? Previously I had a G8 microserver, is there some kind of disk box similar to that?

2.- The P420 controller is compatible with this server (I understand that yes)?

3.- This server has a socket FCLGA2011-3, does anyone know which processors can be compatible with this server other than those recommended by HP?

These are some questions, I hope not overwhelm.

Thanks and best regards.

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JackoUK

You tell us very specifically what kit you want to buy  ... but nothing about the environment in which it is used .. so it is difficult to reply without a context. However:

 

1. The simplest and cheapest way to go from 4 disks to 8 disks ... is to buy a 2nd microserver. I've ended up with 4 storage servers, as you can see from my signature.

2. Moving up to an 8 disk system is, as you have found, expensive. The ML110 G9 with its low form factor disk bays doesn't sound like a good idea: your existing disks are probably 3.5" rather than the LFF of 2.5".

3. You already have 4 valuable components (in addition to your disks and their data): the E3 CPU, 16GB RAM and the 2 RAID cards. I would have gone for a build-out reusing these items, selecting a suitable motherboard, power supply and case.

4. You also have the problem of migrating your data to a new system whilst maintaining the existing data's integrity. Where are you going to park that 4x6TB file set while you initialise a new 8-disk RAID array?

5. I've been contemplating an 8-bay solution - I like the Fractal Design R5 case for starters.

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You tell us very specifically what kit you want to buy  ... but nothing about the environment in which it is used .. so it is difficult to reply without a context. However:

 

1. The simplest and cheapest way to go from 4 disks to 8 disks ... is to buy a 2nd microserver. I've ended up with 4 storage servers, as you can see from my signature.

2. Moving up to an 8 disk system is, as you have found, expensive. The ML110 G9 with its low form factor disk bays doesn't sound like a good idea: your existing disks are probably 3.5" rather than the LFF of 2.5".

3. You already have 4 valuable components (in addition to your disks and their data): the E3 CPU, 16GB RAM and the 2 RAID cards. I would have gone for a build-out reusing these items, selecting a suitable motherboard, power supply and case.

4. You also have the problem of migrating your data to a new system whilst maintaining the existing data's integrity. Where are you going to park that 4x6TB file set while you initialise a new 8-disk RAID array?

5. I've been contemplating an 8-bay solution - I like the Fractal Design R5 case for starters.

The truth is that the server cost me € 505 in Amazon Spain, so when I sell the Micro server G8 I can amortize (a little) the expense of the new server.

I had planned to incorporate a P420 card, and only manage the 8 bays of the server (put the 8 disks in RAID5), while the b140 would use it for the operating system in RAID1. I would like to be able to migrate all the information to the new server, most of the data that I have on the server are not important, I have a copy of the important data on another external hard drive.

As for buying another G8 micro server, I like things are all concentrated in something compact without external boxes or cables that have to leave the back, plus, the source of the micro server I think it only has a maximum of 200W

Thank you for your advices!

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JackoUK

After looking at the spec. sheet for the ML110 G9 a little more closely https://h20195.www2.hpe.com/v2/GetPDF.aspx/c04545445.pdf:

I see that it includes an 8-bay LFF (=3.5" disks) option, which is presumably your target (the 16 SFF disk option would be very expensive), so OK to reuse your existing disks.

 

Your best bet about an extra 4-bay drive cage (and possibly more fittings/power/disk cabling) and compatibility with the P420 is to contact HP ... I'd use their online chat. I'd be very surprised if the P420 didn't work since it is an HP part.

Or perhaps a specialist server provider. I'd use a company like this https://www.serversplus.com/servers/tower_servers/hpe_tower_servers/p03685-425 in the UK.

Since the G9 is a generation out of date I can see why you might be having trouble.

I can't help with the Spanish market.

 

 8 disks on the P420 RAID 5 & 2 on the B140 RAID 1 sounds good. 

 

 

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Or maybe not for using both B140i and P420 ...

 

Storage Controller One of the following depending on model
Entry Models HPE Dynamic Smart Array B140i Controller
 NOTE: B140i can't mix with any standup internal controller.
 Base Models HPE Dynamic Smart Array B140i Controller
 NOTE: B140i can't mix with any standup internal controller.

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After looking at the spec. sheet for the ML110 G9 a little more closely https://h20195.www2.hpe.com/v2/GetPDF.aspx/c04545445.pdf:

I see that it includes an 8-bay LFF (=3.5" disks) option, which is presumably your target (the 16 SFF disk option would be very expensive), so OK to reuse your existing disks.

 

Your best bet about an extra 4-bay drive cage (and possibly more fittings/power/disk cabling) and compatibility with the P420 is to contact HP ... I'd use their online chat. I'd be very surprised if the P420 didn't work since it is an HP part.

Or perhaps a specialist server provider. I'd use a company like this https://www.serversplus.com/servers/tower_servers/hpe_tower_servers/p03685-425 in the UK.

Since the G9 is a generation out of date I can see why you might be having trouble.

I can't help with the Spanish market.

 

 8 disks on the P420 RAID 5 & 2 on the B140 RAID 1 sounds good. 

 

 

Yes, I'll take a look at the serverplus website. Thank you!

 

 

 

Or maybe not for using both B140i and P420 ...

 

Storage Controller One of the following depending on model
Entry Models HPE Dynamic Smart Array B140i Controller
 NOTE: B140i can't mix with any standup internal controller.
 Base Models HPE Dynamic Smart Array B140i Controller
 NOTE: B140i can't mix with any standup internal controller.

Does it mean that the two controllers can not run at the same time? I simply wanted the b140 to be for the operating system, and the p420 only for data.

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