By Mario P.
I have old WHS v.1 20-bay movie server.
Few years ago I bought QNAP TS-415+ with 4Tb drives setup in RAID5.
I really like PLEX on QNAP and started moving/transcoding my movies from WHS to QNAP.
Well, my 4-bay QNAP is full.
I need to get a larger one.
I'm looking at 8-bay ones and just don't think it'll be large enough once I start getting more BD movies, and especially once 4K movies start moving into my home (probably 1-2 years away).
8-Bay units setup in RAID6 with the largest 12TB drives will be limited to 72TB. I have immediate use for about 30TB -- that's 42% of maximum 8 bay capacity.
I don't really need much processing power, but am afraid to run out of space again.
Also, I don't want to get a power hungry monster (like my 20-bay WHS was) because I want to keep running it 24/7 and electricity was in the order of $28-40 per month.
I like QNAP. I would like to get another one but looking at prices of $3,500-$6,000 for 16-bay unit just seems high -- really high.
Is QNAP overpriced, or are the components just that good/pricey for what I get.
Again, I don't need much processing power (no need for VMs, CPU heavy tasks beyond PLEX transcoding), just large space (80+TB).
What have you or would you do?
P.S. I would prefer Intel CPU if at all possible.
I am on the hunt for the following NAS's:
Qnap TS-453S Pro, any of the Synology mini's Ds409slim,Ds411Slim, Ds411slim, Ds414slim and Ds416 slim
PM me or reply here if you have any of these wee beasties for trade/sale!
Figure 1 – The Calhoun Technologies HP 686745-002 “Refurbished” drive-cage in anti-static package with Dell 15” mini SAS cable resting on top with other drive-cages and HPE ProLiant ML10v2 Server
A year ago when I was planning my move to Ohio I wanted to move my 5TB drives from my HPE ProLiant ML30 Gen9 to my HPE ProLiant ML10v2 in order to set up a “Mirror” backup of the files on my WHS2011 system using AllWay Sync on my ML10v2. The fastest way to make the move was to unplug the drive-cage in the ML30 Gen9 and plug it into the ML10v2! It fit perfectly and worked flawlessly. It also spoiled me!
After settling in Ohio, finally, I wanted to return the ML30 Gen9’s drive-cage to its rightful place and I began searching for the best low-cost way to add a drive-cage to my ML10v2 that worked like the one in the ML30 Gen9 instead of the stock ML10v2 drive-cage. There’s a great discussion in the HSS Forums documenting forum members search for a similar drive-cage.
Figure 2 – Pages 18 & 19 of HPE ProLiant ML30 Gen9 Server “Maintenance and Service Guide”; Part Number: 825545-001; December 2015; Edition 1; shows a spare part number 792351-001 for the Four-bay LFF Hot-plug drive backplane assembly which would include the a) Drive backplane and Drive cage – Part 792351-001 is the part I first looked for and found at Calhoun Technologies.
After reading some great suggestions in the Forums I stumbled upon the 792351-001 in the parts number of the ML30 Gen9 manual and thought it should fit the bill and found a low-cost option at Calhoun Technologies for a 792351-001 “Refurbished”.
Figure 3 – ML30Gen9 drive-cage (also 686745-002 footprint) compared to 792351-001 on bottom – the sharpie markings show how much wider the front of the 792351-001 frame is compared to the 686745-002 and why the front cover of the ML10v2 wouldn’t close on the 792351-001.
The 792351-001 did work in my ML10v2 but I could not close the front cover on the ML10v2, so I kept looking while also trying to modify the 792351 with my Dremel. I could make it fit finally, but only after a lot of Dremel work and the end result didn’t look good.
Figure 4 – Tag identifying the drive-cage assembly in ML30G9 as: HPE P/N 674790-002 Replace with spare HDD Cage, 4Lff, $u Gen8 Enhanced (686745-002) LITEON (Rev. 15-11-17. The 686745-002 that arrived was identified with a similar tag: HP P/N 674790-002 Replace with spare HDD Cage, 4LFF, 4U Gen8 Enhanced (686745-002) LITEON (Rev.A) 14-03-17.
On the drive-cage out of the ML30 Gen9 I found the part number 686745-002 which I thought was the part number of the cage alone. (I was wrong about that!) I found it at Calhoun Technologies listed as HP 686745-002 “Refurbished” SPS-HDD cage 4LFF 4U Enhanced. Thinking that it was likely only the drive-cage without a backplane I ordered it since with the 792351-001 I had an extra backplane. I was wrong! The part number referred to the assembly of the drive-cage and backplane.
As the following pictures will show the 686745-002 arrived with a backplane and it appears to be working flawlessly.
Figure 5 – Front and Back of Calhoun Technologies HP 686745-002 “Refurbished” SPS-HDD cage 4LFF 4U Enhanced
Figure 6 – Picture of backplanes L-R: ML30G9 Drive-Cage, 792351-001, and 686745-002
Video of my installation of the 686745-002.
Video 1 – Install Drive-Cage in HPE ProLiant ML10v2
Figure 7 – Calhoun Technologies HP 686745-002 “Refurbished” SPS-HDD cage 4LFF 4U Enhanced installed in HPE ProLiant ML10v2
Figure 8 – HPE ProLiant ML10v2 powered up and all 3.5” drives functioning in Calhoun Technologies HP 686745-002 “Refurbished” SPS-HDD cage 4LFF 4U Enhanced
Thanks to the members of HSS Forum Thread: ML10v2 Drive-Cage for their many insights and suggestions and thanks to forum member ToyCeli22 for starting the thread.
Figure 9 – 686745-002 drive-cage installed in ML10v2 on left and stock 674790-002 drive-cage back in the ML30Gen9 on right
In the As-Built that follows I list how this ML10v2 is loaded. Be sure to check out more on this at ML10 and ML10v2 Forum and ML10v2 Drive Cage Forum Thread.
As-Built (I named my Computer: SkyNet)
HPE ProLiant ML10v2 Server Xeon E3-1220v3 32GB Unbuffered ECC RAM KVR16E11K4/32 OS: Windows 8.1 Pro B120i Logical Drive 01: OS drive – 1 x Corsair Force GT 240GB SSD in RAID0 on HP Dynamic Smart Array B120i RAID Controller – Port 1 (SATA III or 6GB/s) -- Icy Dock ExpressCage MB326SP-B Bay 1 B120i Logical Drive 02: Data drive – 1 x Samsung 256GB 840 Pro SSD in RAID0 on HP Dynamic Smart Array B120i RAID Controller – Port 2 (SATA III or 6GB/s) – Icy Dock ExpressCage MB326SP-B Bay 2 B120i Logical Drive 03: Data drive -- 4 x WD10JUCT 1TB 2.5” HDDs in RAID10 on HP Dynamic Smart Array B120i RAID Controller – Ports 3, 4, 5, & 6 (each SATA II or 3GB/s) – Icy Dock ExpressCage MB326SP-B Bays 3, 4, 5, & 6 P222 Logical Drive 01: Data drive – 4 x WD 5TB SE HDDs (WD5001F9YZ) in RAID5 on HP Dynamic Smart Array P222 RAID Controller Card – Ports 1, 2, 3, & 4 (each SATA III or 6GB/s) – mounted in Bays 1, 2, 3, & 4 of drive-cage 686745-002 “Refurbished” Calhoun Technologies Drive-cage 686745-002 “Refurbished” SPS-HDD cage 4LFF 4U Enhanced; Dell Poweredge T710 PG9KK Mini SAS SFF-8087 cable 15” (38cm) Icy Dock ExpressCage MB326SP-B (I used the existing SATA cable that had gone to the optical drive for bay 5 plus a Blue 18” SATA cable I had in stock from previous projects for Bay 6; StarTech Model SAS8087S450 19” (50cm) Serial Attached SCSI SAS Cable – SFF-8087 to 4x Latching SATA for Bays 1, 2, 3, & 4; I also used a Molex Y to two SATA Power Connectors) 60mm Fan mounted near the bottom front of ML10v2 to increase air flow for the P222 60mm Fan mounted in empty card slot to direct air flow directly on P222 heat sink (plus Molex to Fan splitter and Y Fan to 2 Fan connector cable)
Please join us in the HSS Forums to discuss this and many other interesting topics.
Check HSS Forum Post: http://homeservershow.com/forums/index.php?/topic/10796-ml10v2-drive-cage/
Scsi4me.com 3.5” Drive Tray Caddy 4 HP ProLiant ML350e ML310e SL250s Gen8 Gen9 G9 651314-001 http://www.ebay.com/itm/231001449171
Dell Poweredge T710 PG9KK Mini SAS SFF-8087 to SFF-8087 Cable 15” (38cm) https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Poweredge-PG9KK-SFF-8087-Cable/dp/B00NOEY3OS/ref=pd_sim_147_9?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=1ZRF07DQQ5V1M36D045C
HPE ProLiant ML30 Gen9 Server; Maintenance and Service Guide (Item 18 on pages 18-19 lists a Spare part number 792351-001 Four-bay LFF Hot-plug drive backplane assembly – this was where I initially got part number 792351-001 that I ordered from Calhoun Technologies – as stated earlier I found that it did work but I was unable to close the front cover of the ML10v2 or ML30G9 when that part was installed) http://h20628.www2.hp.com/km-ext/kmcsdirect/emr_na-c04905980-1.pdf
Calhoun Technologies HP 686745-002 Refurbished http://www.calhountech.com/products/hp-686745-002-4-bay-sas-sata-lff-hot-plug-drv-cage.html
Additional Fans in the HPE ProLiant ML10v2 http://homeservershow.com/additional-fans-in-the-hpe-proliant-ml10v2.html
Installing Icy Dock 5.25” ExpressCage MB326SP-B http://homeservershow.com/installing-my-icy-dock-5-25-expresscage-mb326sp-b.html
Other HSS ML10v2 Blog Postings: http://homeservershow.com/tag/ML10v2
HSS HP ProLiant ML10v2 postings: http://homeservershow.com/forums/index.php?/forum/98-ml10-and-ml10v2/
Check out my ML10v2 Play List:
Unboxing Drive Caddies for my ML30 G9
Figure 1 – Preparing to install new 64GB of RAM
I upgrade the stock 8GB to 64GB of RAM in the HPE ProLiant ML30 Gen9 using 4 DIMMs (“Sticks”) of Kingston KVR21E15D8/16.
Figure 2 – Kingston KVR21E15D8/16
Figure 3 – 64GB RAM about to be installed in HPE ProLiant ML30 Gen9
Figure 4 – HPE ProLiant ML30 Gen9 – System Board Components & Memory “Type” requirement from “QuickSpecs” – DIMMs removal & installation instructions from “Maintenance & Service Guide” (see links in References below)
Figure 5 – HPE ProLiant ML30 Gen9 – Memory & DDR4 memory population guidelines from “QuickSpecs” (see links in References below)
I upgraded to 64GB of RAM in my HPE ProLiant ML30 Gen9 using Kingston KVR21E15D8/16 from Newegg. The KVR21E15D8/16 was suggested by Schoondoggy on the forum thread RAM for ML30 Gen9.
Video 1 – 64GB RAM in HPE ProLiant ML30 Gen9.
Figure 6 – View of the four new DIMMs installed for 64GB of RAM. Time to replace the air baffle, tower bezel, and side panel then hook up the ML30 Gen9 and see if it works!
Figure 7 – IT WORKS! Screen during first post showing 64GB RAM - for the first time! Thank you Schoondoggy!!
Figure 8 – System Summary Information showing 64GB RAM installed
Figure 9 – System Information with Installed Physical Memory (64GB RAM) Highlighted
Figure 10 – Task Manager showing 64GB of DDR4.
Figure 11 – iLO4 System Information – Memory Information showing four 16GB DIMMs installed. Status is "Good, In Use".
Figure 12 – Temperatures appear well within range while system fan speed was a consistent 6% - BIOS set to Optimal Cooling (Note that the two 40mm fans in the Icy Dock ToughArmor MB994SP-4SB-1 were also running).
Figure 13 – HPE ProLiant ML30 Gen9 running with 64GB RAM and using 30.1 Watts. Everything seems to be working well – time to think about adding more drives and turn on Hyper-V!!
As-Built (I named my Computer: Serenity)
HPE ProLiant ML30 Gen9 (Product No. 830893) Xeon E3-1240v5 (SkyLake LGA 1151) 64GB ECC RAM – Kingston KVR21E15D8/16 OS: Windows 10 Pro B140i Dynamic Smart Array: Ports 1-4: (4*3.5” Drive Tray Caddies for Main Drive-Cage Assembly Bays 1-4) B140i Dynamic Smart Array: Ports 5-6: Icy Dock MB994SP-4SB-1 in Top 5.25” half-height Bay; with/ 2*18” SATA III (6 Gb/s) cables attached to Bays 1 & 2 (Bays 3 & 4 are available for future); Molex to Molex & Fan Y-Connector Cable; Samsung 840 Pro 256GB in Bay 1;
Please join us in the HomeServerShow Forums to discuss this and tell us what you are building at home.
RAM for ML30 Gen9 http://homeservershow.com/forums/index.php?/topic/14807-ram-for-ml30-gen9/
ValueRAM Decoder https://www.kingston.com/us/memory/valueram/valueram_decoder
ValueRAM KVR21E15D8/16 Specs Sheet http://www.kingston.com/dataSheets/KVR21E15D8_16.pdf
Check HSS Forum Post: Other HSS ML30 Blog Postings: http://homeservershow.com/tag/ML30
HomeServerShow Forum for ML10’s & ML30’s http://homeservershow.com/forums/index.php?/forum/98-ml10-and-ml10v2/
HPE ProLiant ML30 Gen9 Server Maintenance & Service Guide http://h20628.www2.hp.com/km-ext/kmcsdirect/emr_na-c04905980-1.pdf
HPE ProLiant ML30 Gen9 Server QuickSpecs http://h20195.www2.hp.com/v2/GetDocument.aspx?docname=c04834998&doctype=quickspecs&doclang=EN_US&searchquery=&cc=us&lc=en
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