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Hi all,

 

firstly great forum here, I've recently lost my old N36L, finally died a death :( 

 

i am now now looking to replace but I wanted to know if you can fit a 5th hard disk in the optical bay?

 

many Thanks.

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On 8/31/2017 at 6:56 PM, Groovedude said:

Hi all,

 

firstly great forum here, I've recently lost my old N36L, finally died a death :( 

 

i am now now looking to replace but I wanted to know if you can fit a 5th hard disk in the optical bay?

 

many Thanks.

 

You can fit a SSD (or two thin SSD's) in that space but not a regular HDD.  I have fitted a 15mm VR (VelociRaptor) on a modified SDM v3.5 (Schoondoggy Drive Mount) attached to the PSU.

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Hi All,

 

I'm new to this forum.

 

I have 2 N54Ls and 2 Gen8s (entry level) and 1 ML10 and I am looking to acquire the Gen10 as my main server at home 24 X 7 running as a NAS and Plex Server.

 

I would like to ask if any of you have tried to use a PCIe to M.2 NVME adapter and use an M.2 drive as a boot drive? 

 

I read that one needs to have a UEFI bios to support this and as far as I know, the Gen7 does not have a UEFI bios but the Gen8 and Gen10 does.

 

My purpose is to have the 4 drive bays available for IronWolf 10TB or even 12TB drives and have the optical drive bay be use with a 2.5 inch 3TB drive.

 

Any thoughts or suggestions, I'll greatly appreciate.

 

BTW, been watching the videos uploded by John on youtube.

 

Makes me want to get my own SDMs

 

No idea for now what version to choose for my Gen8s

 

Oh the reason I replied to this forum link is to also ask the question if the Gen10 or Gen8 can support the IronWolf 10TB or 12TB drives?

 

Marlou Jasmin Madrio - Singapore

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14 hours ago, Marlou said:

Hi All,

 

I'm new to this forum.

 

I have 2 N54Ls and 2 Gen8s (entry level) and 1 ML10 and I am looking to acquire the Gen10 as my main server at home 24 X 7 running as a NAS and Plex Server.

 

I would like to ask if any of you have tried to use a PCIe to M.2 NVME adapter and use an M.2 drive as a boot drive? 

 

I read that one needs to have a UEFI bios to support this and as far as I know, the Gen7 does not have a UEFI bios but the Gen8 and Gen10 does.

 

My purpose is to have the 4 drive bays available for IronWolf 10TB or even 12TB drives and have the optical drive bay be use with a 2.5 inch 3TB drive.

 

Any thoughts or suggestions, I'll greatly appreciate.

 

BTW, been watching the videos uploded by John on youtube.

 

Makes me want to get my own SDMs

 

No idea for now what version to choose for my Gen8s

 

Oh the reason I replied to this forum link is to also ask the question if the Gen10 or Gen8 can support the IronWolf 10TB or 12TB drives?

 

Marlou Jasmin Madrio - Singapore

There should be no limit to drive size on either Gen8 or Gen10, but there have been some posts on the Gen8 not recognizing certain large drives. No issues reported yet on Gen10. I have not tried a PCIe M.2 adapter in the Gen10, but I do have it booting from a PCIe mSATA adapter:

 

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Hi,
 
Any thoughts on the Seagate 2.5 inch 5TB HDDs?
 
Its 15mm tall
 
Anyone has tried this already?
 
Marlou Jasmin Madrio - Singapore
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I have not, but reports from other users are very good. I have four of the 4TB Seagate 2.5" 15mm. They are very slow on write speed and act odd when in an array. The 4TH 2.5" 15mm drives were designed for DVRs.
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On 9/1/2017 at 6:56 AM, Groovedude said:

Hi all,

 

firstly great forum here, I've recently lost my old N36L, finally died a death :( 

 

i am now now looking to replace but I wanted to know if you can fit a 5th hard disk in the optical bay?

 

many Thanks.

the 5th hard disk in ODD bay is possible. I just did it. And you can use 2.5' SDD or 2.5 HDD. For HDD, you need some more stuffs to fix the HDD tight.

E.g

9.5MM Aluminum SATA 2nd Hard Disk Drive Caddy Case Adapter For Universal Laptop CD / DVD-ROM Optical Bay

0.15m 3.5" Power Female to SATA Power Adapter

6in Slimline SATA to SATA Adapter with Power - Slim SATA (F) to SATA (M) - Slimline Serial ATA to SATA

 

For SDD, you can use items above. Or you just stick it to anywhere you like inside Gen10.;)

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On 24/09/2017 at 2:35 PM, Joe_Miner said:

 

You can fit a SSD (or two thin SSD's) in that space but not a regular HDD.  I have fitted a 15mm VR (VelociRaptor) on a modified SDM v3.5 (Schoondoggy Drive Mount) attached to the

 

I think one of the 2.5" WD Red units might fit in there. It's an intriguing Possibility.PSU. https://www.wdc.com/products/internal-storage/wd-red.html#WD10JFCX

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On 10/30/2017 at 2:21 PM, Marlou said:

I would like to ask if any of you have tried to use a PCIe to M.2 NVME adapter and use an M.2 drive as a boot drive? 

 

I read that one needs to have a UEFI bios to support this and as far as I know, the Gen7 does not have a UEFI bios but the Gen8 and Gen10 does.

 

I've just used the startech pcie m2 nvme adapter with a 1tb samsung 970 pro nvme as a boot drive for win 10, got it right before i read the news about the evo pluses coming out, i had it in the 8x bay and got full speed - very nice, that was crazy fast, but now ive shifted it off to the 1x and put a radeon pro wx4100 in the 8x slot, the 1x slot still gives me 4x better speed than sata2 which ive been used to up til now using the odd bay on a my gen 8's for ssds, also have a 12tb seagate helium drive in there and will probably fill the rest of the bays out with them, and also plan to put another ssd in this machines odd bay for some kind of cache..

 

heres the benchmark of my current setups nvme boot drive in the 1x slot

gen10-1tb970pro.png

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