Jump to content
RESET Forums (homeservershow.com)
Joe_Miner

My First Review of HPE ProLiant Gen10 MicroServer BETA

Recommended Posts

Lallkopf

I did Turn Off UEFI and also Set the SSD as First Boot device. Still it does not boot from SSD. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
schoondoggy
11 hours ago, Lallkopf said:

I did Turn Off UEFI and also Set the SSD as First Boot device. Still it does not boot from SSD. 

Is the SSD the only drive in the server?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Lallkopf
On 9/16/2017 at 7:04 PM, schoondoggy said:

Is the SSD the only drive in the server?

My setup looks like this. I have 2 RAID HDD with 3TB each. I use it for data backup and multimedia purposes. The other two bays I like to use as a normal storage for multimedia only - both data content are expandable. All these drives are HDDs (2x3TB RAID;; 1 x3TB & 1x4TB). For the OS I wanted to use the 5th SATA interface with my SSD (120GB - I know it's big...).

Originally idea was to install NAS4Free on the SSD. Unfortunately there are some issues with the compatibility of this OS, but I saw that the booting process worked with SSD. Therefore I wanted to install Linux. I tried to install either Debian and Ubuntu distribution. Interesting was, that via internal USB it worked like a charm. I could see and install both distributions on the SSD. Once I rebooted with SSD as boot device it hang up stating that there is no OS installed. I guess that there is still a BIOS problem, but I'm not sure.

By the way thanks for helping! :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
schoondoggy

I am not as Linux knowledgeable as I should be, but when I have boot issues I try to get back to the basics. I would remove all of the drives other than the SSD and I would clear all partitions from the SSD. Then I would do a clean load of a OS and see if it boots. If I get a chance I will try to load Ubuntu on a SSD in my Gen10. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Lallkopf

I tried this before. I removed all drives and made a clean Linux setup on the ssd without any other partitions. Same result. I was puzzled since starting Linux with USB seemed to be no problem. This is why I assumed it might be a BIOS issue. Another possibility might be that the server is broken. I considered this as a low chance possibility. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Lord Raven

Hi, has anyone used Gen10 as HTPC here? I am interested to know if it's graphic card can do bit-streaming for DTS capable AVR or TV?

 

I read it is the best choice for media servers and HTPC, if compared with Gen8. I hope it is true so far after its release. Thanks

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
schoondoggy
On 11/15/2017 at 6:18 AM, Lord Raven said:

Hi, has anyone used Gen10 as HTPC here? I am interested to know if it's graphic card can do bit-streaming for DTS capable AVR or TV?

 

I read it is the best choice for media servers and HTPC, if compared with Gen8. I hope it is true so far after its release. Thanks

Not sure if it does. Unfortunatley, I do not have a good way to test it right now.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
pcarmo

Does anyone know if HPE Smart Array P420 controller will work on the Microserver Gen 10?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
schoondoggy
Does anyone know if HPE Smart Array P420 controller will work on the Microserver Gen 10?
I have not tried a P420, but I did try a P222 and it did not work.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
pcarmo

Thanks schoondoggy.

 

Can you elaborate a little more. Didn't work at all?

I know there is some problem enabling the Smart Array Pxxx controllers ROM on a non Proliant server (I remember reading that it is related to some iLo hooks). Was that the problem?

 

My goal would be to build a home NAS with 4x4Gb WD Red SATA disks at RAID 5. I don't want software raid (been there) but I'm cool with hardware RAID as I use it a lot on work (mainly with P400 on a DL380 with SAS).

 

What are my options for a hardware RAID controller that works on the Microserver Gen10? (online RAID expansion would be a nice bonus).

 

Thanks you,

Paulo Carmo

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Similar Content

    • Taztaztic
      By Taztaztic
      Hi all,
       
      I am new to the server world (please be gentle) and I desperately need some help!
       
      I recently acquired a HP MicroServer Gen8. Bays 1 & 2 have 1TB SSD each and I believe they are setup in a RAID 1 config (not sure how to check) and have windows server 2012 installed.
       
      Bays 3 & 4 are empty and I recently purchased a 4TB WD Blue Hard Drive and managed to install windows 10 onto it via a separate computer.
       
      I've now inserted the 4TB Hard drive into bay 3 and want windows 10 to load up, but its not doing that....it keeps loading up windows server 2012 thats in bays 1/2 hard drives.
       
      How can I choose which bay to boot windows from? I like it to boot from Bay 3 most of the time that has windows 10.
       
      In normal computers, it was simple to organise the boot order via BIOS, but with the Gen8 its seems very complex with HP's own BIOS...etc and it's starting to give me a headache!
       
      Any help from anyone will be really appreciated!
       
      A simple easy to follow instructions will suffice.
       
    • E3000
      By E3000
      Hello all,
       
      A few questions for those who use Type-1 Hypervisors on their Gen8 MicroServers...
       
      I am looking to try ESXi or ProxMox and have been reading a lot of the threads on here.
      Hopefully you guys can help with some harder to find answers I have been seeking.
       
      1) Which would be the better way to setup ProxMox:
           a) Hypervisor on Internal MicroSD, VMs installed on SSD in ODD Port, Data on 4x HDDs in bays.
           b) Hypervisor on Internal USB, VMs installed on SSD in ODD Port, Data on 4x HDDs in bays.
           c) Hypervisor and VMs both installed on same SSD (partitioned?) in ODD Port, Data on 4x HDDs in bays.
           d) Hypervisor on SSD using a USB-to-SATA cable on Internal USB, VMs installed on separate SSD in ODD Port, Data on 4x HDDs in bays.
       
      2) Would a 128GB SSD be a ‘waste‘ for installing a Hypervisor on? How much space is typically needed?
       
      3) How many VMs have you guys run on a Gen8 comfortably without it being sluggish?
       
      4) Everyone seems to be going RAID crazy these days. Is there any reason to use it if high-availability is not that necessary and a good backup plan is in place? What is wrong with separate disks (or singular Raid0s)?
       
      5) Does using Type-1 Hypervisors have any effect on the internal fans speed/noise? Is it possible to have 3-5 VMs running and still have the fan speed @~8% as it was when I was using 2 nested (Type-2) VMs?
       
      Sorry in advance if some of these questions are silly, common knowledge, or “depends on what you are doing in the VMs!” 😆
       
      Thanks in advance to all those that help!
    • dxzdxz1
      By dxzdxz1
      This is my first post here but I've been lurking in this forum for quite sometime now, and from what I understand, the only reason that we couldn't achieve 32gb ram on the Microserver Gen8 was because there was no 16gb unbuffered ecc ram available before.
       
      I was searching for a memory module meeting this criteria and I found this one. My question is, letting aside this ridiculous price, is there any compatibility issue that could make this ram won't work on the Microserver Gen8?
       
      Most of the threads here about memory compatibility are quite old and I didn't want to revive an old thread just to ask this, so I'm creating this one.
       
      Thanks in advance.
    • radaxian
      By radaxian
      Hi all,
       
      Here's a guide I would like to share around Windows Storage spaces and creating a 4x drive Parity pool
       
      In a nutshell I have Windows Serer 2019 and storage space parity pool running very nicely on my Gen8. Here's the configuration I used and How to copy my setup.
      (I still believe ZFS or UnRAID are far better choice as a filesystem on these limited servers, but if you need Windows like I do, then storage spaces can be an excellent alternative.)
       
      This is my "best effort" guide and by no means perfect. It does however yield excellent results for both read and write speeds.
       
      Gen8 Microserver
      16GB RAM
      CPU Stock for now (1270 V3 on it's way)
      Disks  4x 3TB WD NAS drives in front bays
      SSD - Samsung Evo 850 265
       
       
      First lesson, DONT use the Windows GUI to create the pool or Virtual disk as the GUI applies terrible defaults that you can't edit and will ruin performance. Also make sure you're on the latest version of Windows server as a LOT has changed and been improved recently.
       
       
      You must use PowerShell.
       
       
      Terms:
      PhysicalDiskRedundancy - Parity Columns - 4 (The data segments stripped to disks. Should match your 4 disks) Interleve - 256K (The amound of data written to each "column" or disk. In this case 256KB interleave gives us a 64K write to each disk) LogicalSectorSize - 4096 PhysicalSectorSize - 4096 REFS/NTFS Cluster - 64K  
       
      Overall configuration:
      4 drive file system, one bootable SSD in RAID mode.
       
      BIOS setup initial
      F9 into the BIOS and set the B120i controller into RAID mode
      F5 into the RAID manager and create 1 individual RAID0 logical drive for the SSD
      Set the SSD as the preferred boot drive (Yes in the same screen)
      Set the cluster size to 63
      Enable caching
       
      Windows install 
      Install Windows 2019 Server Standard GUI edition from ISO
      Offer up the B120i RAID drivers via a USB stick so the wizard can see the SSD RAID0 drive. Filename p033111.exe (Have them extracted)
      Windows update and patch and reboot
       
      BIOS setup post windows
      Once windows is up and running go back into the F5 RAID manager and finish the setup of the 4 front drives into 4x RAID0
      Check the SSD is still set as the preferred boot drive (Yes in the same screen)
      Set the cluster size to 63
       
      Windows config of storage spaces
      At this point you should see 4 individual drives ready to be used as a Storage pool
       
      Try to set each disk to have a cache (Not all drives support this)
      Win + X to open the side menu
      Device Manager
      Expand Disk Drives
      Right Click the "HP Logical Volume" for each drive
      Check - "Enable write caching on the device"
      (If it doesn't work don't stress, it's optional but nice to have)
       
       
      Powershell - Run as Admin
       
      Determine the physical drisks available for the pool we're about to create
      Get-PhysicalDisk | ft friendlyname, uniqueid, mediatype, size -auto  
      Your output will look something like this, so identify the 4 drives that are the same and take note of their uniqueID
       
      Mine are the bottom four drives all 3TB in size
       
      friendlyname            uniqueid                                        size
      ------------                         --------                                        ----
      SSD
      HP LOGICAL VOLUME       600508B1001C5C7A1716CCDD5A706248        250023444480
       
      HP LOGICAL VOLUME       600508B1001CAC8AFB32EE6C88C5530D       3000559427584
      HP LOGICAL VOLUME       600508B1001C51F9E0FF399C742F83A6       3000559427584
      HP LOGICAL VOLUME       600508B1001C2FA8F3E8856A2BF094A0       3000559427584
      HP LOGICAL VOLUME       600508B1001CDBCE168F371E1E5AAA23       3000559427584
       

      Rename the friendly name based on the UniqueID from above and set to "HDD type"
       
      Set-Physicaldisk -uniqueid "Your UniqueID" -newFriendlyname Disk1 -mediatype HDD
       
      You will need to run that 4 times with each UniqueID code and create a new friendly name for each drive. I called mine "Drive 1, Drive 2" etc
      Set-Physicaldisk -uniqueid "600508B1001C2FA8F3E8856A2BF094A0" -newFriendlyname Disk1 -mediatype HDD Set-Physicaldisk -uniqueid "600508B1001CDBCE168F371E1E5AAA23" -newFriendlyname Disk2 -mediatype HDD Set-Physicaldisk -uniqueid "600508B1001CAC8AFB32EE6C88C5530D" -newFriendlyname Disk3 -mediatype HDD Set-Physicaldisk -uniqueid "600508B1001C51F9E0FF399C742F83A6" -newFriendlyname Disk4 -mediatype HDD  
      Verify the disks have been set correctly
      The following example shows which physical disks are available in the primordial server and CAN be used in the new Pool. You're just checking here if the friendly name renaming worked and they are all set to HDD type. Primordial just means on your local server and available.
      Get-StoragePool -IsPrimordial $true | Get-PhysicalDisk | Where-Object CanPool -eq $True You should see your four drives with nice names that you set like "Disk1"
       
       
      Now find out your sub system name, as we need this for the next command. Just take note of it. Example "Windows Storage on <servername>"
       
      Mine is ""Windows Storage on Radaxian"
      Get-StorageSubSystem  
       
      The following example creates a new storage pool named "Pool1" that uses all available disks and sets the cluster size.
      New-StoragePool -FriendlyName Pool1 -StorageSubsystemFriendlyName "Windows Storage on Radaxian" -PhysicalDisks (Get-PhysicalDisk -CanPool $True) -LogicalSectorSizeDefault 64KB  
       
      Now create the Virtual Disk on the new pool with 4x disks and Partity set correctly. (This is critical to do via PowerShell)
      New-VirtualDisk -StoragePoolFriendlyName "Pool1" -FriendlyName "VDisk1" -ResiliencySettingName Parity -NumberOfDataCopies 1 -NumberOfColumns 4 -ProvisioningType Fixed -Interleave 256KB -UseMaximumSize Those two commands should complete without error, if they don't go back and check your syntax
       
       
       
      Go back into the Windows GUI and open this
      Server Manager\File and Storage Services\Servers
      You should see the Storage pool listed and the Virtual disk we created in the previous steps.
       
      Storage pool - Pool1
      Virtual Disk - VDisk1
       
      Select Disks in the GUI
      Identify your new VDisk1 and right click it.
      Set to Online, this will also set it to use a GPT boot record
       
      On the same screen in the below pane Volumes
      Click TASKS and select "New Volume"
      Select REFS and Sector size of 64K
      Enter a volume name like "Volume1" or whatever you want to call it
      Select a drive letter such as Z
      (You can use NTFS here for slightly better performance, but I'm sticking to REFS as it has some benefits)
       
      You'll now have a Storage pool, Virtual disk on top and a volume created with optimal settings
       
       
       
      Go back into Power Shell
      Enable power protected status if applicable (Just try it, no harm)
      (Ideally here you should have your server connected to a basic UPS to protect it from power outages)
      Set-StoragePool -FriendlyName Pool1 -IsPowerProtected $True  
      Check if the new sector sizes of Virtual disk and all relevant settings are correct
      Get-VirtualDisk | ft FriendlyName, ResiliencySettingName, NumberOfColumns, Interleave, PhysicalDiskRedundancy, LogicalSectorSize, PhysicalSectorSize Example output
      FriendlyName  ResiliencySettingName  NumberOfColumns  Interleave  PhysicalDiskRedundancy  LogicalSectorSize  PhysicalSectorSize
      VDisk1                Parity                                      4                       262144                         1                                        4096                       4096
       
       
      You're done.... enjoy the new Volume.
       
      At this point you can share out your new Volume "Z" and allow client computers to connect.
       
       
       
       
      Some other commands in Power Shell that I found useful
       
      Get more verbose disk details around sectors.
      Get-VirtualDisk -friendlyname Vdisk1 | fl  
      Get-PhysicalDisk | select FriendlyName, Manufacturer, Model, PhysicalSectorSize, LogicalSectorSize | ft  
       
      Check if TRIM is enabled. This output should be 0
      fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify If TRIM is not enabled, you can set it on with these commands
      fsutil behavior set disabledeletenotify ReFS 0 fsutil behavior set disabledeletenotify NTFS 0  
       
      Check the Power Protected status and cache
      Get-StorageAdvancedProperty -PhysicalDisk (Get-PhysicalDisk)[0]  
       
      Once your data has been migrated back to your new pool from backup, make sure you run this command to "spread out the data" properly.
      This command rebalances the Spaces allocation for all of the Spaces in the pool named SQLPool.
      Optimize-StoragePool -FriendlyName "Pool1"  
       
      I'm yet to get my Xeon in the mail, but once that's installed I think the disk performance will go up even higher as the stock CPU is junk.
       
       
       
       
       
       
    • Gulftown
      By Gulftown
      As I have decided to make some improvements on my afermarket fan controller I am trying to try implementing thermal control or mobo PWM control of additional fans, but before that I'm in a great need to inderstand how much fan count the controller should be ready to support. As this forum doesn't support polls I have nothing to do but ask you to reply on this topic.
       
      What I would be thankful to know:
      1. How many fans have you installed in your Microserver.
      2. What fans do you use (size, 3/4-pin connector) and where are they located, also what are they cooling.
      3. What way do you power these fans?
       
      Thank you in advance for your feedback!


×
×
  • Create New...