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Getting started with MS G8 - need guidance on Vmware and other things


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Hello everyone.

 

Finally I have purchased MS G8.

My setup will be the following:

MS G8, Xeon 1265L v2, 12 GB RAM, 8 TB HDD (WD Purple) + 2 TB HDD (WD Green). Onboard 2 NICs + additional car with Dual Head Gigabit NICs (Broadcom chip).

 

I need to run a few machines on that box - a Linux machine where most of the resources would be allocated, Windows XP machine (legacy software which needs an USB HASP key too) and Windows 7 machine. Windows machines will need minimal amount of resources - they will be idling mostly. Having all this in mind, I'm considering to run Vmware to accomodate my needs.

 

However, I'm very new to Vmware. I have never used it before, nor set it up, so my questions are:

1) what is the most suitable Vmware software for MS G8? Where do I find it?

2) How much does the Vmware take space? Where should I install it? On the main HDD (8 TB), or USB stick, or flash card or ...?

3) What layout of disks would you recommend in order for the setup to be flexible, manageable and easily migrateable in case a HDD fails and data will need to be backed up/moved somewhere?

This is the needs:

-Linux machine - 100 GB partition + 7 TB "data" partition

-WinXP machine - 10 GB is enough

-Win7 machine - 50 GB is enough.

4) Is it possible to devite all the 8 "CPUs" to Linux machine and still have one CPU as "overbooked", which Windows machines would share too?

5) Is it possible to install the HASP key into internal USB port on the mainboard and instruct Vmware to dedicate that USB port only for WinXP machine so no other machines would be able to see/access it so that nothing gets messed up?

6) Anything else I must know?

 

Thanks for your advice. Sorry for asking noob questions but I'm really new to Vmware...

Appologies 

 

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1) On HP support page should be a link to custom HP ESXi 6 (Update2) iso image from vmware. Don't use 6.5 ESXi
2) 8 GB internal SD card or internal USB stick. Log files ESXi writes on disk.
3) I would add 250 GB SSD drive (in ODD port) for ESXi logs and virtual machines. HDD as RAID0 drive each. You should downgrade hpvsa driver to version 0.88. Weakest part of Microserver&ESXi is a storage speed or glitches with internal disk controller unless You add some hardware RAID card like P222. But You already has PCI-E slot populated with NICs
4) Yes
5) Yes. With Xeon You can even passthrough USB controller to VM. 
6) Read the first pinned topic "ESXi notes".

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Thanks! Quite a lot of important bits in your post!

 

Regarding the internal SD card - is there a recommendation on the card Class to get? Or even a manufacturer?

Is it possible to make ESXi write logs to a different location (e.g. datastore) rather than the SD card itself?

 

Unfortunately, the budget doesn't allow SSD. I also won't be addint additional RAID card. Besides, additional NIC will occupy the PCI-E slot.

 

Thanks a lot for info!

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My advise is to avoid going on the VMware path, and there are several reasons why specially if you use the free version of esxi.

On the other hand my recommendation is to go with proxmox, is a very mature tier 2 virtualization system that uses kvm and has the possibility on running near native performance lxc.

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ESXi doesn't write logs to SD or USB stick. Only to datastores. So You can use any card from normal manufacturer. Speed affects only boot process and initial install or upgrade process. But Microserver itself boot-up is quite long, so SD card speed should not make a lot of difference.

If  there is no SSD, I would put inactive VM (Win7 & XP) and ESXi logs on WD Green, but Linux VM on WD Purple datastore.

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ESXi doesn't write logs to SD or USB stick. Only to datastores. So You can use any card from normal manufacturer. Speed affects only boot process and initial install or upgrade process. But Microserver itself boot-up is quite long, so SD card speed should not make a lot of difference.

 

If  there is no SSD, I would put inactive VM (Win7 & XP) and ESXi logs on WD Green, but Linux VM on WD Purple datastore.

 

From what I have read, ESXi takes very little disk space and sometimes the server has got problems booting from SD card (after ILO upgrade or so).

Is there a point installing ESXi on SD card at all then?

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From what I have read, ESXi takes very little disk space and sometimes the server has got problems booting from SD card (after ILO upgrade or so).

Is there a point installing ESXi on SD card at all then?

Freedom of changing disks, experiment with datastores etc.

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  • 3 weeks later...

I tried Xenserver but hated it immediately because I couldn't format my drives without going through command line and I am useless at Linux so if something went wrong it would be a pain trying to fix things through commands. Proxmox looks pretty good I like you can download a machine ready to go from it but I am using Esxi 6.5 now and have everything working perfectly plus with all my testing pull a drive out and stick in another machine or rebuild and start the vms back up no probs works a treat although licensing is a problem unless you have a keygen not sure I should mention that here on this forum

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