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Outlook On Rt Or Pro

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ikon

There's really no way to 'open' an email. The content of an email just appears in a viewing pane on the right when you select it. One could argue that that is 'opening' an email.

 

In any case, I am able to move an email while it's selected. Thanks for the tip.

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ImTheTypeOfGuy

Microsoft has had 4+ years. The point is they wasted time on a worthless app that should have been spent on making office metro. I don't require outlook on the rt but I do require a functional mail app.

 

You should be able to drag and drop messages.

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ikon

It is a bit of a non sequitur when you consider it's supposed to be designed for a touch interface ;)

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Dewain27

Microsoft has had 4+ years. The point is they wasted time on a worthless app that should have been spent on making office metro. I don't require outlook on the rt but I do require a functional mail app.

 

You should be able to drag and drop messages.

 

I can see that you are not educated in Microsoft development practices.  Microsoft has not had 4+ years to develop applications for Windows 8.  Windows 8 was under development at the same time as the latest version of Office (Office 2013).  A platform such as Windows 8 RT did not exist when Microsoft was finalizing designs for Office.  Office RT was focused to allow for the development of priority applications for home use.  Home and Student for RT does not have Outlook, nor does Home and Student for x86.  As for adding offline access to OWA that was a feature that the Exchange team implemented and has nothing to do with Office it actually is the Exchange team leveraging a feature in IE 10.  BTW... drag and drop works in the OWA interface.  Lastly, drag and drop and how to do it in an expected way with touch is not as simple as you make it out.  I ensure you that there are large teams that are highly invested in figuring out how to do that in an acceptable way.  I think your expectations and comments are way out of the realm of reality as the mail client has now been updated 3 times in 5 months and features are being added by teams to get more capability.  Office teams are working hard and looking at how they move to the new UI and support the new environment, however you really need to think about the amount of people and time it takes to get something right.  Keep in mind that in order to ship products that were under 3 year development cycles there was no way to line up these two major products to hit at the same time.  Just wireframing would not be completed early enough to hit the dates.

 

One question:  I really don't understand why someone that is so negative to Microsoft is on a site that is dedicated to one of its new big bet products.  So, why would you waste your time on a site that you hate so much?  I have never understood the troll mentality.  If you don't like Microsoft or the products why waste your time.  I encourage you to search any sites and you will find no smashing of other companies by me.  Maybe facebook in fun with my friends, but I don't go actively seeking arguments with others.

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Dewain27

Oh... meant to say... this feature is great for companies that have O365 K1 SKU.  Especially when they don't want to support client deliver of EMail.  So, I wouldn't say it is worthless seeing that my fortune 500 customer found extreme value in the feature.  Oh and did I mention that when Mary Jo Foley visited this site and read the write up that she Tweeted me thanks for the great tip... Again... seems like others may differ with your opinion of the value.

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Blah, blah, blah. I am not taking time to drink your koolaid. Microsoft let missed the boat and now is way behind. Besides, of you were right we wouldn't be having this discussion. Keep in mind the public has spoken.

 

PS. I run the IT department do a chemical company. According to my Microsoft AE, TAM, PFE's I work with, and every other person they all admit the mail app is crap and outlook should have been the focus.

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Blah, blah, blah. I am not taking time to drink your koolaid. Microsoft let missed the boat and now is way behind. Besides, of you were right we wouldn't be having this discussion. Keep in mind the public has spoken.

 

PS. I run the IT department do a chemical company. According to my Microsoft AE, TAM, PFE's I work with, and every other person they all admit the mail app is crap and outlook should have been the focus.

It depends on the use case, business vs consumer. Outlook is a great mail app, but the average consumer does not use it or need it. That is why Microsoft dropped it from the basic Office package. When Surface RT was released it was not aimed at business users, so no Outlook. Your Microsoft contacts agree, because they call on business, not consumer. Most business users do not manage their mail well. I wonder what will happen to the performance of a RT running Outlook with five PST files at 1-4GB each? Time will tell.

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Keep in mind I am not saying it has to be Outlook, or if I did I didn't mean to say that. I think it would have been much easier for them to take OUtlook and remove features than to start with a new program. Clearly going from the ground up didn't work. It was the number one complaint from all users, not just business users. Outlook Express could have been a better option. Outlook as it is today may not work on the system and I didn't say it would. I mentioned metro Outlook.

 

I had planned to give my sales team RT's but once I saw the mail up it was a definite no go. I was looking to get 50 of them. I haven't decided my next direction, many are pushing for an iPad but no way am I going to support apple on our network as I wouldn't even allow our Chairman to use his apple laptop on our network.. I may look at some of the Lenovo products. 

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