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Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet 2 (TPT2) Review:


I just want to preface this review by stating that I am not going to give a whole lot of technical specifications. I take an esoteric approach to reviews. Technical specs only tell a small part of the story; it is the experience that ultimately proves out and that is what I will attempt to relay to you. Also, I will refer to other devices in this review as comparison and yes even the IPad.... I know, I know but the IPad is what I came from and the only daily experience I had prior to the TPT2 from a tablet perspective and despite the great divide between Windows and IOS users, I feel the two are in the same category and merit comparison.


 

Hardware


Screen: The screen is fantastic. It is a 10.1 inch IPS display with about a 720P resolution (same as the Surface RT). The fact that it is about .5 inch smaller than the Surface RT actually lends greater resolution and the color saturation is great. The display is simply beautiful. Fingerprints actually aren't that bad on the screen but for me that wouldn't matter anyways; I accept the fact that I am using my oily fingers and the screen will reflect that. I wish the screen had either one less layer or was more closely bonded to help improve the writing experience.  The writing experience isn't bad but not like that of the Surface Pro. The screen is very responsive to the touch, just as good, if not better, than any other device I have used. 


Weight: Much has been made about the amazingly light weight achievement with this device.  It is fantastically light weight. I definitely do not feel any fatigue while holding it in one hand for extended periods of time like I did with my IPad. The fact that it is so lightweight also makes me cringe a bit less when dropping it since the force of impact is reduced. 


Camera: So the cameras are 8MP Rear, and 2MP front (I believe). Honestly they are not that great.  The front facing cam is more than sufficient for a good, not great, video conferencing experience.  The rear cam, while coming with flash, is just subpar. Low light shots are just grainy and putrid. I am not sure why; it being an 8MP should deliver higher quality shots but it comes down to what you plan on using this for. Personally I feel foolish holding a tablet up to take pictures. It reminds me of a photo I once saw online of a young man holding a baking sheet up in the mirror with a caption reading 'This is what all you idiots with IPads look like when taking pictures.' At first I laughed, and then I said 'Oh Crap.'  Since then I only use the rear camera mode of a tablet in the comfort of my own home for my kids.   At the end of the day, to me the cameras are not all that important but I will note that I almost think the cameras on the Surface RT are on par or better than that of the TPT2 even though they are less MP. 


Sound: Sound is something that, like cameras, is an area where seemingly all tablets fall short. The sound quality itself is on par with the IPad, and the Samsung Ativ Smart PC 500. It still is a bit better quality and louder in my opinion than the Surface RT however not by much. The volume just is lacking, it needs to have the ability to go about 50% louder so I can hear it without ancillary speakers in moderately loud environments such as in the bathroom while showering. This was never an issue with the IPad and has been frustrating. The other issue is the placement of the speaker. The speaker is at the bottom of the device so if you are holding it in your lap, well you are going to strain to hear if there is other white noise. I really wish we would see more tablet manufacturers approach speakers like Samsung, having dual speakers, allowing for stereo separation; front facing makes a world of difference. 


Wireless: I personally have no objection to the strength and range of the wireless receiver in this device. It works in all rooms around my house (which is honestly quite small) as well as in my yard and driveway. It is quick, and I never have any connectivity issues that many people experienced with the Surface RT. All in all, no complaints.


Battery: The battery life on this device is great. I really find it a great accomplishment to be able to get 8 hours of average usage (music, videos, light multi tasking) out of a device so light and so darn thin. Yes I know a big part of that is the Atom platform which itself brings some drawbacks but ultimately I am happy with the trade off. The only downside of the battery is the length of charge time (about 4 hours) but that is likely more to do with the underpowered mini USB charging port than anything to do with the battery setup. 


Design: So the design of this tablet I believe is going to be a love/hate feeling for people. Personally, I was skeptical if my OCD would allow me to get past the asymmetrical nature of this beast. I, up to this point, have been someone that needs symmetry in a device however I have been able to deal with it.  I think that it helps me that I am someone who holds the device one handed most of the time and I do so in my left hand which covers up the plastic edge of the USB and Pen housing. I appreciate the solid feeling of the volume rocker, it neither protrudes too much from the right side, nor is it too sleek up against the housing like some devices. I will complain about the location of the rotation lock. It is directly beneath the volume rocker and I often accidentally hit that when trying to lower the volume.  Personally I am a fan of the rubber covers for the USB, Micro SD/Sim card hubs. I always have been, it helps keep dust and junk out of the hubs and it helps continue a nice line all the way around the device.  The soft touch back is something Lenovo does well, and I love it. The feeling of that soft touch back helps the device feel firm and secure in my hands and I don't have to worry about is slipping off hard surfaces. I also appreciate the existence of a physical home button. Using devices such as the Surface RT and other capacitive home button devices has occasionally been an issue when accidentally brushing the capacitive button. I have already complained about the location of the speaker so I won't dive any further into that. One other issue I have is with the light sensor. This thing is huge. It creates a visual disturbance when looking at the device; it just looks out of place. It is located on the right side of the screen about two inches from the top of the device. I have many times accidentally covered it and had my screen adjust. The positive is the sensor is very good, and adjusts quickly and effectively but it is in the wrong spot and just too big. It should be about 10%-25% smaller and should be located directly under the front cam. I won't spend too much time on the pen but from a design standpoint I appreciate the red flavor it provides when in the housing. The pen itself is a bit too short, the button is a bit rinky-dink, and the tip is just okay. The pen is fairly responsive but not quite as good as the Samsung experience and certainly not as good as the Surface Pro. I can't find replacement tips so it appears that if you need a new tip, it is going to be $30 for a whole new pen.


Quality:  So this is a stinker of a topic. A big part of why I went with Lenovo was because of their quality in their other Thinkpad devices. There are two visual issues that jump at me. The first is the setting of the front cam. You can see the ridges around the came on about half the camera, it appears it wasn't centered very well when set. The other issue is that the home button is nicked. I can't really explain it but it isn't right. Both of these issues are not anomalies with my device because MobileTechReview noted the same issue with the cam and this is actually my second TPT2 with the same issues. Did I just say my 'second TPT2?' I sure did, which leads me to my third issue.  I pre-ordered the TPT2 about 30 minutes after it was made available in the U.S. for ordering on their site.  I note that because I wonder if the issue I had was related to faulty parts delivered in the first production run of the U.S. tabs. I am not sure but the issue was that since day one of having the first TPT2, every day or two the device would freeze, become totally unresponsive, and then bring me to a blue screen noting an error of 'driver_power_state_failure.' I tried resetting a few times and nothing helped. The error was not triggered by any one thing, it would happen randomly while in different applications, both MS and third party. When I called Lenovo Service, they apparently were not surprised by this as they immediately asked to send the device in for service and repair. The only problem was that there was no repair, the device was deemed un-repairable and I was sent an entirely new unit (which I will get to later). So the issues with the cam and home button may be small and possibly trivial but hey, I spent $700 on this device and accessories, I damn well expect perfection on the one thing Lenovo completely controls, the hardware.


Experience:


Processing/Responsiveness: So this is an Intel Atom Dual Core Processor. Yes I know many of you will hear Atom and wince but the Atom is really not that bad. I see it as an issue of what you want to do. If you are looking for a hardcore machine capable of heavy multi tasking, heavy processing (i.e. Photoshop), and as a primary laptop replacement then you wouldn't even be looking at this device because of the lack of RAM. For that you need at least 4GB of RAM at a very bare minimum. You also probably want a larger screen, and something with true HD/high PPI. I didn't need that. I was coming from an IPad but wanted the convenience of MS Office applications as well as SkyDrive and XBox Music.  The Atom is still faster than what I had in my IPad, and it gets the job done. I have no problems running Metro style apps in unison but I do see some strain if running desktop applications at the same time.  The device can get a bit warm when really being pushed but for me, 99% of the time it runs cool because I am not pushing it to its limits. I want to note my experience with Office 365. On my first TPT2, I was able to install a trial of MS Office 2010 and it ran great. By the tome o received my second TPT2, that trial was off the table and no trial for 2013 is offered because MS is forcing our hands to Office 365.  I begrudgingly tried Office 365 and uninstalled it within one day... the constant streaming of features made the office applications sluggish and unbearable. I am not sure if this was a device issue or what but it made the taste in my mouth over the whole single license deal with MS Office 2013 even worse. I am disgusted with MS approach and willingness to alienate users... luckily for them I don’t feel a suitable alternative exists in the marketplace, don’t even mention Google Docs.


Mobility: The device is very mobile. It is compact (10.1 Inches) and among the lightest (if not the lightest) tablet offerings on the market of this size. The built in pen housing helps make sure you won't lose the pen (unlike the Surface Pro where the pen can easily be knocked off the device). The addition of the SIM slot for mobile network access (AT&T) is also a welcome addition for those that want/need it. 


Accessories: Lenovo is one company that like Apple, does accessories very well. There are two case/sleeve options. The first is a leather sleeve meant to transport both the tablet and the optional Bluetooth keyboard. The second is a traditional type of case. It has a hard backer with cutouts for all the ports (except the micro SD Card, major oversight) and a fold over leather like exterior, micro fiber interior cover that actually wakes/hibernates the device. The cover also has a tab build into the back side that will allow you to prop your device up. There is also a keyboard 'dock' that is actually just a keyboard with a slot that your tablet sits in. The keyboard connects via Bluetooth. It does not have a traditional track pad but has an optical track point that I hear works well. The keyboard itself is the standard amazing Thinkpad experience. The last major accessory is a dock (without a keyboard) that allows you to firmly dock your tablet for charging. The dock also has additional USB 2.0 ports and an Ethernet port. The only problem is that all of these will set you back more than you would like.


Ports: So the device comes with 3 ports. The first being a mini USB (yes mini, not micro) charging port.  This is underpowered and as a result, it takes several hours to fully charge the device. This also comes with a full sized USB 2.0 port however, just like the mini USB port, is underpowered. I would say that connecting things like a mouse, thumb drive, etc are okay but an external Hard Drive might not perform the best. The third port is a micro SD and sim card port. The last port is the docking port. The docking port only works with the docking accessory from Lenovo but it brings multiple USB ports, charging, and an Ethernet port. 


Lenovo Service: So in an earlier topic, I noted that this was my second TPT2. My service experience was great, no hassle at all. The day after I called, they had a box delivered from UPS with a Next Day Air return label, and very clear instructions. About four business days after delivery at their facility, I received a call from someone at Lenovo letting me know that they were sending me a new unit because the first was faulty. I pushed about the reason but was just told that there were faulty parts in the device. They emailed me the basic specs on the new machine, and sent it out the day I approved. Here is the best part. I was upgraded in the process. I received an upgrade to Windows 8 Pro (Was plain W8 at first). Plus the device I received came with WWAN, an AT&T Sim Card installed and ready for activation, and NFC. Yes I said NFC. NFC was not previously available in the US and I am not sure if it is yet. I actually think I may have been sent the international model. I am not sure if this upgrade was intended or simply a mistake that worked in my favor but in a way I feel I deserved it for what I was put through with the faulty device especially when I backed them so heavily leading up to the release which was delayed multiple times and poorly communicated. 

 

Verdict:


I have typed enough of my thoughts already so I will keep this short and to the point. Should you get this? Maybe. Are you wanting to use this full time, running multiple desktop applications in parallel?  Do not buy this. Are you wanting this as a primary consumption device (videos, music, news, etc), for light gaming, and MS Office functionality? Consider this Device. I am somewhat happy with this device.  I say somewhat because I am still a bit upset about the first faulty device but I am getting over it and if I take that out of the equation (which I don't think you should), then I love this device. Just like anything, it has pros and cons, and the best advice I can give is to spend time at stores that display multiple W8 tablets and see what you need, and what you don't. To me, if I consider everything I get for the price in the TPT2, it is a bit better deal than the Surface RT but that is just my opinion and if you ask my wife, my opinion doesn't really matter and is often wrong  :)

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scoobyx

Great write-up! It was super easy to relate to your points which made them resonate even more.

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CommonTek

Thank you, I appreciate it.  So many reviews wander and I tried to structure this to prevent that.

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ImTheTypeOfGuy

Great job. I think you have convinced me to wait until gen 2 and be happy with the rt for now.

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CommonTek

I think that is a fair approach.  This summer or fall the next gen CPU's should be out and will help take Windows to another level on tablets.  I am also anxious to see how Windows Blue addresses the seemingly bipolar nature of W8/RT.

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      Download Service Pack for ProLiant (SPP) from Hewlett Packard Enterprise Support Center – Drivers & Software – the current version is 2016.10.0 (24 Oct 2016) – check also threads about SPP at HSS Forum MS Gen8 Load the SPP ISO in “virtual drives” in remote desktop of iLO4 Boot the ML30 Gen9 – with no drives in the ML30 Gen9 in my case – and let SPP run automatically and update all firmware – See Figure 3 below. Shut down the ML30 Gen9 Next: I removed the Samsung 840 Pro 256GB that I had loaded Server 2016 on (giving me the flexibility to switch OS’s by switching SSD’s in the ML30 Gen9) and loaded another Samsung 840 Pro 256GB into drive 1 of the Icy Dock ToughArmor MB994SP-4SB-1 Go to the Hewlett Packard Enterprise Support Center – Drivers & Software – and download the file cp028631.exe that is the Dynamic Smart Array B140i Controller Driver for 64-bit Microsoft Windows Server 2012/2016 Editions (Since Windows 10 has the same core as Server 2016 I plan to use it for manual installation of Windows 10 64-bit Pro in the ML30 Gen9 – the HPE Drivers & Software site does not have Drivers & Software for non-server OS’s) – the current version is 62.12.0.64 (24 Oct 2016) Extract the files in cp028631.exe and load those into a file folder that I then attach/load in “virtual drives” of remote desktop of iLO4 (during Windows install this will be the folder I browse to so that Windows 10 can pull in the driver and see the Samsung 840 Pro ) Load the Windows 10 Pro x64 ISO in “virtual drives” of remote desktop of iLO4 Boot the ML30 Gen9 During boot go into IP (press F10) and select SSA (Smart Storage Administrator) In SSA I set up the Samsung 840 Pro as a single drive RAID0 to be used as my OS drive – See Figure 2 earlier. Exit SSA & IP and Restart the ML30 Gen9 Proceed with the normal Windows 10 Pro x64 install – During install Windows 10 will ask for location of drivers so it can see the drive(s) – in browse lead it to the location to the file folder of B140i driver(s) in the “virtual drives” C: -- if your OS drive had been previously formatted as MBR you will have to delete that so it can be formatted as GPT. See Video 1 below. After Windows 10 is installed and updated – reattach SPP ISO in remote desktop of iLO4 In the Windows desktop go to the SPP ISO in File Explorer and Execute the Batch file for HPSUM (i.e. execute: launch_hpsum.bat as Administrator) – I chose “Localhost Guided Update” – Automatic Mode After running HPSUM (and rebooting) the HPE software shown in Figure 4 below was installed. Enjoy!  
       

       
      Figure 3 – After running SPP’s ISO the firmware of the ML30 Gen9 is up to date.
       
       
       
       
      Video 1 – Browsing to select the file folder with B14i S2016 drivers during install of Windows 10 Pro on HPE ProLiant ML30 Gen9
       
       
       

       
      Figure 4 – Software installed by HPSUM in Windows Server 2016
       
       
       

       
      Figure 5 – Temperatures in the ML30 Gen9 via iLO4. BIOS is set on optimal cooling and my single System Fan is running at 6% and the two 40mm fans on the MB994SP-4SB-1 are turned on.
       
       
       

       
      Figure 6 – System information showing Windows 10 Pro as the OS
       
       
       

       
      Figure 7 – Basic information showing Windows Server loaded onto my HPE ProLiant ML30 Gen9 running from a single SSD RAID0 in bay 1 of the Icy Dock ToughArmor MB994SP-4SB-1
       
       
       
      All in all Windows 10 Pro was easy to load onto the HPE ProLiant ML30 Gen9 providing a relatively cheaper platform (compared to Windows Server 2016) for a home lab for setting up and testing applications in Hyper-V for instance.
       
      In the As-Built that follows I list how this ML10v2 is loaded. Be sure to check out more on this at ML10 and ML10v2 Forum and Windows 10 Pro on HPE ProLiant ML30 Gen9 Forum Thread.
       
       
       
      As-Built (I named my Computer: Serenity)
      HPE ProLiant ML30 Gen9 (Product No. 830893) Xeon E3-1240v5 (SkyLake LGA 1151) 8GB ECC RAM (Expandable to 64GB) OS: Windows 10 Pro B140i Dynamic Smart Array: Ports 1-4: (4*3.5” Drive Tray Caddies for Main Drive-Cage Assembly Bays 1-4) B140i Dynamic Smart Array: Ports 5-6: Icy Dock MB994SP-4SB-1 in Top 5.25” half-height Bay; with/ 2*18” SATA III (6 Gb/s) cables attached to Bays 1 & 2 (Bays 3 & 4 are available for future); Molex to Molex & Fan Y-Connector Cable; Samsung 840 Pro 256GB in Bay 1;  
       
      Please join us in the HomeServerShow Forums to discuss this and tell us what you are building at home.
       
       
       
      References:
       
      Check HSS Forum Post: Other HSS ML30 Blog Postings: http://homeservershow.com/tag/ML30
       
       HSS HP ProLiant ML30 Forum postings (In HSS Forum ML10 & ML10v2): http://homeservershow.com/forums/index.php?/forum/98-ml10-and-ml10v2/
       
      HP MicroServer Gen8 – Service Pack for ProLiant – 24th Oct 2016 http://homeservershow.com/forums/index.php?/topic/12034-hp-microserver-gen8-service-pack-for-proliant-24th-oct-2016/
       
       iLO Advanced License Keys http://homeservershow.com/forums/index.php?/topic/9511-ilo-advanced-license-keys-1850-2400/
       
       Icy Dock “ToughArmor” MB994SP-4SB-1 http://www.icydock.com/goods.php?id=142
       
      Scsi4me.com 3.5” Drive Tray Caddy 4 HP ProLiant ML350e ML310e SL250s Gen8 Gen9 G9 651314-001 http://www.ebay.com/itm/231001449171
       
       HPE ProLiant ML30 Gen9 Server QuickSpecs http://h20195.www2.hp.com/v2/GetDocument.aspx?docname=c04834998&doctype=quickspecs&doclang=EN_US&searchquery=&cc=us&lc=en
       
      HPE ProLiant ML30 Gen9 Server “Maintenance and Service Guide”; Part Number: 825545-002; November 2016; Edition: 2 => http://h20565.www2.hpe.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?sp4ts.oid=1008556812&docLocale=en_US&docId=emr_na-c04905980 Or go to => http://h20565.www2.hpe.com/portal/site/hpsc/public/psi/home/?sp4ts.oid=1008556812&ac.admitted=1489520211680.125225703.1851288163#manuals
       
       Check out my HPE ML30 Gen9 Play-List:
    • Joe_Miner
      By Joe_Miner
      By: JohnStutsman
       
       
       

       
      Figure 1 – Preparing to install new 64GB of RAM
       
       
       
      I upgrade the stock 8GB to 64GB of RAM in the HPE ProLiant ML30 Gen9 using 4 DIMMs (“Sticks”) of Kingston KVR21E15D8/16.
       
       
       

       
      Figure 2 – Kingston KVR21E15D8/16
       
       
       

       
      Figure 3 – 64GB RAM about to be installed in HPE ProLiant ML30 Gen9
       
       
       
       
       
      Figure 4 – HPE ProLiant ML30 Gen9 – System Board Components & Memory “Type” requirement from “QuickSpecs” – DIMMs removal & installation instructions from “Maintenance & Service Guide” (see links in References below)
       
       
       

       
      Figure 5 – HPE ProLiant ML30 Gen9 – Memory & DDR4 memory population guidelines from “QuickSpecs” (see links in References below)
       
       
       
      I upgraded to 64GB of RAM in my HPE ProLiant ML30 Gen9 using Kingston KVR21E15D8/16 from Newegg. The KVR21E15D8/16 was suggested by Schoondoggy on the forum thread RAM for ML30 Gen9.
       
       
       
       
      Video 1 – 64GB RAM in HPE ProLiant ML30 Gen9.
       
       
       

       
      Figure 6 – View of the four new DIMMs installed for 64GB of RAM. Time to replace the air baffle, tower bezel, and side panel then hook up the ML30 Gen9 and see if it works!
       
       
       
       
       

       
      Figure 7 – IT WORKS! Screen during first post showing 64GB RAM - for the first time!  Thank you Schoondoggy!!
       
       
       

       
      Figure 8 – System Summary Information showing 64GB RAM installed
       
       
       

       
      Figure 9 – System Information with Installed Physical Memory (64GB RAM) Highlighted
       
       
       

       
      Figure 10 – Task Manager showing 64GB of DDR4.
       
       
       

       
      Figure 11 – iLO4 System Information – Memory Information showing four 16GB DIMMs installed.  Status is "Good, In Use".
       
       
       

       
      Figure 12 – Temperatures appear well within range while system fan speed was a consistent 6% - BIOS set to Optimal Cooling (Note that the two 40mm fans in the Icy Dock ToughArmor MB994SP-4SB-1 were also running).
       
       
       

       
      Figure 13 – HPE ProLiant ML30 Gen9 running with 64GB RAM and using 30.1 Watts. Everything seems to be working well – time to think about adding more drives and turn on Hyper-V!!
       
       
       
      As-Built (I named my Computer: Serenity)
      HPE ProLiant ML30 Gen9 (Product No. 830893) Xeon E3-1240v5 (SkyLake LGA 1151) 64GB ECC RAM – Kingston KVR21E15D8/16 OS: Windows 10 Pro B140i Dynamic Smart Array: Ports 1-4: (4*3.5” Drive Tray Caddies for Main Drive-Cage Assembly Bays 1-4) B140i Dynamic Smart Array: Ports 5-6: Icy Dock MB994SP-4SB-1 in Top 5.25” half-height Bay; with/ 2*18” SATA III (6 Gb/s) cables attached to Bays 1 & 2 (Bays 3 & 4 are available for future); Molex to Molex & Fan Y-Connector Cable; Samsung 840 Pro 256GB in Bay 1;  
       
      Please join us in the HomeServerShow Forums to discuss this and tell us what you are building at home.
       
       
       
      Reference:
       
      RAM for ML30 Gen9 http://homeservershow.com/forums/index.php?/topic/14807-ram-for-ml30-gen9/
       
      ValueRAM Decoder https://www.kingston.com/us/memory/valueram/valueram_decoder
       
      ValueRAM KVR21E15D8/16 Specs Sheet http://www.kingston.com/dataSheets/KVR21E15D8_16.pdf
       
      Check HSS Forum Post: Other HSS ML30 Blog Postings: http://homeservershow.com/tag/ML30
       
      HomeServerShow Forum for ML10’s & ML30’s http://homeservershow.com/forums/index.php?/forum/98-ml10-and-ml10v2/
       
      HPE ProLiant ML30 Gen9 Server Maintenance & Service Guide http://h20628.www2.hp.com/km-ext/kmcsdirect/emr_na-c04905980-1.pdf
       
      HPE ProLiant ML30 Gen9 Server QuickSpecs http://h20195.www2.hp.com/v2/GetDocument.aspx?docname=c04834998&doctype=quickspecs&doclang=EN_US&searchquery=&cc=us&lc=en
    • Dave
      By Dave
      I'm reviewing the Echo Show on RESET 26. I'll also talk some cameras and a surprise product that I really like! EZVIZ
       
       


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