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Normally there is nothing wrong with purchasing product from China as along as they are authorized sellers of said product, In the case of Hikvision they are not. How do I know? It's simple really if you follow Hikvision as long as I have, The Hikvision brand is not and never was a brand to be sold directly to the end user for self install, If you find a seller selling brand new Hikvision branded cameras directly to the end-user for self install its not legal by the terms and conditions of Hikvision themselves nor will get get support or firmware updates for the cameras that you paid for. As I said before in most cases if you find sellers selling these cameras under the Hikvision brand they will in most cases have a China region code that has hacked firmware to display in English and good luck updating the firmware going forward. Most if not all AliExpress sellers have gotten legal letters from Hikvision to stop selling there camera under the Hikvision brand or else. Some of those AliExpress sellers have confided with the letter have also opened up new shops to continue to sell the Hikvision brand till they get caught.

 

I am going to try and explain it this way. The Hikvision brand is a very protected brand that is only sold to authorized sellers in the form of distributors, You need to be in the trade of selling and installing CCTV/IP Cameras to purchase from these distributors in order to have access to the Hikvision brand, Under those conditions the company purchasing the Hikvision cameras from the distributor can not sell the camera over the counter but can only sell the camera as part of a service with installation. Hikvision has other programs available to sellers that want to sell directly to the end user in the form of re-branding like I explained with Nellysecurity, This is the only legal way your going to get a Hikvision camera with full support and a US region code with upgraded firmware when its released. Here is a grate read but there are many more if you do a search https://diysecurityguy.wordpress.com/2016/04/03/tip-how-to-tell-if-my-hikvision-camera-is-us-chinese-or-international/

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dalem

Could you post a link to the Milwaukee M18 you used? When I search M18 I get tons of choices.

 

Thanks

I have the carrying kit.  It includes the drill, battery and charging base.  The drill model specifically is 2607-20 and the carrying kit is 2607-22CT.

 

https://www.milwaukeetool.com/power-tools/cordless/2607-20

 

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M18-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-1-2-in-Hammer-Drill-Driver-Compact-Kit-2607-22CT/204632933

 

A word of warning.  These drills have a lot of torque.  Especially in the hammer drill function.  Make sure you have a firm grip and have your other hand hold the drill steady.  I almost sprained my wrist driving a 3 inch lag into a roofing rafter.  It was 90 degrees leaning over a asphalt roof.  My hands started to get sweaty.  I lost my grip and the drill spun me a quarter turn before releasing the trigger.  

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Poppapete

Normally there is nothing wrong with purchasing product from China as along as they are authorized sellers of said product, 

I understand that by saving $100 on a product I will be unable to get after sales service.  That is my decision.  I suspect the price difference in USA is not as great as here in Australia and thus it may be worth paying the extra for a product with local after sales service.  I recently bought a Samsung S7 edge from Asia and saved $300 over buying in Australia but know that I may have difficulty with after sales service from Samsung Australia.

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I understand that by saving $100 on a product I will be unable to get after sales service.  That is my decision.  I suspect the price difference in USA is not as great as here in Australia and thus it may be worth paying the extra for a product with local after sales service.  I recently bought a Samsung S7 edge from Asia and saved $300 over buying in Australia but know that I may have difficulty with after sales service from Samsung Australia.

I understand what you mean.  There is a video podcast I watch.  One of the hosts is from Australia.  He is always getting stuff from China vs anywhere else including his own country.  He has said that it is occasionally less expensive depending on what the item is.  To order stuff from China vs anywhere else.

 

I can only speak for myself and some friends here in the USA.  The opinion is that there is good Chinese products and bad Chinese products.  Apple, HP, etc, etc, have some or all of their items made in the industrial cities of China. (Shenzhen and Chengdu among others)  As long as you buy from a known company you should be fine.  I have an Amateur Radio License.  I have bought some Chinese hand held transceivers.  A side from the configuration menus (in english) they are every bit as good as other products made elsewhere.  They range in price from $40 to $80 for a Chinese one.  The other brands are in the range of $200 to $400.  So there is quite a bit of saving to get one direct from China.  Even if the US distributor charges for the import fees.  They are still much much cheaper than buying other brands.

 

With that said.  I can forgive a $30 -$80 loss.  When it is saving me $200+.  When it comes to buying something at $100+.  I am a bit cautious.  The replacement costs add up.  Once a level of frustration is reached.  You now have to consider the additional cost of buying the non Chinese direct product.  That you now feel like you should have bought in the first place.

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I have the carrying kit.  It includes the drill, battery and charging base.  The drill model specifically is 2607-20 and the carrying kit is 2607-22CT.

 

https://www.milwaukeetool.com/power-tools/cordless/2607-20

 

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M18-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-1-2-in-Hammer-Drill-Driver-Compact-Kit-2607-22CT/204632933

 

A word of warning.  These drills have a lot of torque.  Especially in the hammer drill function.  Make sure you have a firm grip and have your other hand hold the drill steady.  I almost sprained my wrist driving a 3 inch lag into a roofing rafter.  It was 90 degrees leaning over a asphalt roof.  My hands started to get sweaty.  I lost my grip and the drill spun me a quarter turn before releasing the trigger.  

Thanks for the info and links. Ouch yes I know some of these tools can be very danger, Glad you did not get hurt.

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You are welcome. It was when I was in training. I wasn't use to driving lags into rafters to begin with. Let alone using a drill with a hammer function.

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On ‎9‎/‎15‎/‎2016 at 5:48 PM, itGeeks said:

@dalem,

Sorry it took so long to get back to you, I totally agree with you about Blue Iris and is one of several reasons I don't use it. With all this talk I almost for got to tell your what I decided to use after testing Blur Iris and Synology survalance station at my house, I ended up using milestone XProtect Go, Its free for up to 8 cameras and five days of recording witch I thing is long enough for home use. I did like the Synology Survalnce station but motion detection never worked rite no matter how many hours I spent tweaking it, XProtect Go did a really great job with motion detection and used very little recording space as a result. I had 6 IP cameras running on it. Take a hard look at it as its one of the best NVR software I found https://www.milestonesys.com/our-products/video-management-software/xprotect-go/

 

As for IP camera I was using LTS Platinum 3 and 4 MP, They are re-branded Hikvision cameras and though they work great they are a bit pricey and you need a EIN number to purchase these camera because they don't sell to the public. http://www.ltsecurityinc.com/ip-camera/ip-dome.html Have a listen to the HSS podcast 297 where Dave and pcdoc talk about IP cameras they both seem to like and at a very reasonable cost https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiY-_qxD-fY  If you don't want to listen to the whole podcast fast forward to 41 minutes for the talk. Below is the cameras they are talking about

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010LH48F4?redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s01&th=1

 

One word of caution if you live in an aria with spiders and your going to use outside IP cameras consider not using bullet or dome cameras with IR, Spiders love them and will cover the camera lens with spider webs so you will have to hose them off every month or so to clear the lens to see the image, Instead go with a Turret style IP camera as I did and life will be good, The ones I used where these http://www.ltsecurityinc.com/ip-camera/ip-dome/ip-network-turret-camera-cmip1142w-6.html

 

Update: I just found out about another free NVR option from another post though it is only Linux https://www.zoneminder.com/

This is the HSS post where I found it if you want to ask the OP any questions http://homeservershow.com/forums/index.php?/topic/11399-security-dvr-software/#entry121462 

 

Lisa of alternatives to Blue Iris http://alternativeto.net/software/blue-iris/

I am having issues with high resource demand with Blue Iris as well and found this article in a search. My specs are i7 920 @ 2.67 GHz; 12 GB RAM, 2 x 250 GB WD Black Caviar in IcyDock Enclosure with Raid 1 and with five physical cameras plus one virtual camera, my CPU load is usually around 75%. I have all cameras recording direct to disk and ten second pre-recording. I have two 4 MP cameras and three that are 2 MP. Even with the pre-recording I would expect much lower resource requirements. I plan to have about eight cameras total. The reason I did the search is because I was going to see if anyone had posted physical spec's on a computer that works well with Blue Iris. I may have to give xprotect a try.

 

On ‎9‎/‎16‎/‎2016 at 5:10 PM, Poppapete said:

I love Blue Iris and have tried Milestone & ISpy. Why bother having security cameras if you only keep 5 days. All you need is an old i3 box with Blue Iris and run it as a stand alone security system accessed via a remote desktop connection.  I have 4 x 3MP Hikvisions (external and internal types) which coast $100 from China via AliExpress.  Sorry way off topic I realise.

I agree with you. I plan to keep recordings at least one month. How is the performance of your hardware that you are using with Blue Iris? Does it support any other operations or is it dedicated?

 

On ‎9‎/‎18‎/‎2016 at 7:44 AM, Jason said:

Am thinking of building a dedicated Blue Iris box. What specs for 4-5 cameras? Right now I run BI and 2 camera on my WS12R2 box in addition to Plex media server, etc.

 

I need to find someone to drill and mount cameras outside and run Ethernet cables for POE before I do anything else. Thought about having ADT do it initially then swapping with BI later.

Did you ever build a box? If yes, what were the specs? My box is currently on Windows Server 2008R2. I wonder if Windows 10 would be better.

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