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I'm running Server 2012 R2 and have been looking for a reasonably price cloud backup solution.  What I would like to have is a solution that:

 

1.  Encrypts data prior to upload with my onw key,

2.  Backs up automatically, and

3.  Doesn't interfere with other server operations.

 

I had CrashPlan until the software update disabled it.  It handled criteria 1 and 2 well.  However, upon their program change, I realized I couldn’t rely on an all-in-one solution.

 

Last year I purchased Amazon Cloud drive on sale for $5 to test as an alternative.  Amazon’s software isn’t very useful.  No encryption on Amazon’s cloud.  I also had to manually update the files uploaded.  It worked for music and pictures, but I don’t want to use it for my bank and tax files.

 

I purchased StableBit Cloud Drive - as part of a their software package pruchaase.  At the time, they had a beta with Amazon Cloud Drive which looked very promising.  It also handled the first two criteria very well.  Unfortunately, it appears that Amazon had discontinued consideration for Cloud Drive, so I’m forced to move on until the day they resolve this issue.

 

I’ve searched again and have now found Arq.  I’ve just started the 30-day trial to see how it works.  It allows encryption before upload and it backs up selected drives and directories – not sure if file level yet – automatically. 

 

I’m looking for feedback on any solutions suggestions or experience with Arq.  I have 30 days before I need to make a decision on purchasing and would like opinions to evaluate.

 

You may also notice; I haven’t said that any solution I’ve mentioned addressed criteria 3.  My experience to date is if I attempt to back up my PC Backup files – since the storage solutions I’ve been using, like my data, is unlimited – the processes interferes with client backups and, now I’ve noticed, server backup and cleanup operations. 

 

With CrashPlan, I tried scheduling backups during off hours when client backups didn’t occur.  Using Amazon’s software, I tried using tasks to start and stop the program overnight.  However, the program doesn’t appear to start correctly using Task Scheduler – I’m new to task scheduling.  I’m currently not backing up my client backups with Arq as I want my other data uploaded first.  Once my initial backup completes, I may consider working with client backups and user either the program’s scheduler or task scheduling again.

 

Thank you for any advice, experiences provided.

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  • 2 weeks later...

I was able to get CrashPlan reworking on my 2012R2 server after the update issue.  I had to reinstall the program under the local admin and install for all users.  Not sure what you mean on the "Doesn't interfere with other server operations" though...  hope this helps.

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Thank you for the update on CrashPlan.  I thought I'd heard some mention of that on the HSS podcast, but you confirmed it.

 

My recolection is that backing up the client backup folder interfered with the client backup operation.  I resorted to scheduling the cloud backup during the time I didn't have client backup scheduled.

 

I've run Arq during it's trial period.  During this time I played around with the settings and added folders to archive.  Some of this activity caused the program to beging scanning the directories from the first one.  Towards the end it took over a day to return to the point where Arq left off and it would begin to upload again.  The program has since finished the backup of the initial group of folders.  

 

I then had my disk tower drop half the drives due to a cooling fan failure - good thing I'm backing up to the cloud.  After replacing the fan and rebooting the server, Arq appeared to go through the archived folders quite a bit quicker this time.

 

I ended up purchasing a liscense, I'm hoping that Amazon maintains a more stable pricing policy and sticks around longer than some of the services I've tried in the past.

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I've used CP reliably for all except the Client Backup folder on my Windows Server Essentials box. I'd like to include it in my CP backup but haven't found a reliable way to do it since it changes daily. Couldn't figure out a way to stop all client backups long enough to allow CP to complete the first backup. So that I can then allow it to upload the nightly incremental changes from that point in. Has anyone else managed to do this?

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I also use Amazon Cloud Drive. Cheap and I've heard of users having literal terabytes on their service without issue.

Their software, like a lot of the Amazon software, is lacking.

 

I sync from Win10 to it using SyncBack Pro. No encryption however. Was looking at Boxcryptor, but it confuses me.

 

I would love to get away from CP given it gives me heartburn every time I see the resources it uses.

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I also use Amazon Cloud Drive. Cheap and I've heard of users having literal terabytes on their service without issue.

Their software, like a lot of the Amazon software, is lacking.

 

 

The problem isn't the amount of space you can get on it .... it's everything else. 

 

The reliability is lacking (check with ANYONE using the API, files don't upload reliably, and MUST be retried). Additionally ,there was an outage recently, and it appears that a bunch of data did go missing during that. 

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Thank you for the update on CrashPlan.  I thought I'd heard some mention of that on the HSS podcast, but you confirmed it.

 

My recolection is that backing up the client backup folder interfered with the client backup operation.  I resorted to scheduling the cloud backup during the time I didn't have client backup scheduled.

 

I've run Arq during it's trial period.  During this time I played around with the settings and added folders to archive.  Some of this activity caused the program to beging scanning the directories from the first one.  Towards the end it took over a day to return to the point where Arq left off and it would begin to upload again.  The program has since finished the backup of the initial group of folders.  

 

I then had my disk tower drop half the drives due to a cooling fan failure - good thing I'm backing up to the cloud.  After replacing the fan and rebooting the server, Arq appeared to go through the archived folders quite a bit quicker this time.

 

I ended up purchasing a liscense, I'm hoping that Amazon maintains a more stable pricing policy and sticks around longer than some of the services I've tried in the past.

I came across another product (odrive) that allows you to use multiple providers including amazon cloud, one drive all at the same time. The simplicity is that it allows you to right click on any folder in your computer and choose to sync. This leads to an explorer pop up where it asks which folder or cloud server (if you have more than one) to sync to. And then it does it in the background. Their free plan does not include encryption but their premium plan does. I am testing the process currently and there are some glitches such as for encryption you need to drop the files into an encryptor folder on your computer (and not via the above mentioned sync process) which makes it laborious if you want everything on your computer encrypted. I am testing it for the past 24 hours. For some reason the syncing is pretty slow (i can actually see the file being uploaded slow!). Not sure if this is an amazon issue or an odrive one.

 

Oh and i too would love if the cloudrive would include amazon since it seems a bunch of us got the discount for amazon cloud and in any case they are the cheapest (vs one drive, dropbox, google) for large storage.

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