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Low cost Tiny Box/ Mini ITX Mobo + CPU/ SoC choices: Sophos 9.x UTM Home & its Updates for 2/3 yrs

I was looking at bunch of platforms: Haswell, Broadwell, Braswell {pretty low cost}. Thoughts?

 

PS: Please move this to Networking forum. 

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The smallest, least expensive box with two network ports that I have seen would be this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856205007

Kevin that item is not available any longer and that system has Broadcom NIC's so I would not advise him to get that system because Sophos and many other router software packages don't play well with anything other then Intel NIC's. No disrespect here, it was great that you jumped in to try and help as always.

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Low cost Tiny Box/ Mini ITX Mobo + CPU/ SoC choices: Sophos 9.x UTM Home & its Updates for 2/3 yrs

 

I was looking at bunch of platforms: Haswell, Broadwell, Braswell {pretty low cost}. Thoughts?

 

PS: Please move this to Networking forum. 

How many users are we talking about?

Whats your internet speed both up/down?

Do you use IPS in Sophos?

How many devices are on your network?

Do you plan on using the new Sophos XG or are you staying on Sophos 9.X?

What is your budget?

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Kevin that item is not available any longer and that system has Broadcom NIC's so I would not advise him to get that system because Sophos and many other router software packages don't play well with anything other then Intel NIC's. No disrespect here, it was great that you jumped in to try and help as always.

The system is currently out of stock.

I have used Sophos, Untangle and PFsense on HP SFF PC's with Broadcom NIC's and have not had any issues.

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The system is currently out of stock.

I have used Sophos, Untangle and PFsense on HP SFF PC's with Broadcom NIC's and have not had any issues.

I respect that and Broadcom NIC's are certainly better then Realtech my experience is nothing is safer then Intel NIC's when it comes to servers and this kind of stuff, mileage will vary.

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Doesn't need to be moved.  It appears you are asking for some hardware help specific to using Sophos.

I posted here and when I searched I found more hits for Sophos on the Networking forum, so I figured maybe that's a better place? Maybe here is better - I leave it to your wisdom 

 

The smallest, least expensive box with two network ports that I have seen would be this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856205007

Nice. Thanks for the suggestion. I just saw a Braswell box few days back on Amazon for 130/150, but I dont think it was Dual NIC. 

 

How many users are we talking about?

Whats your internet speed both up/down?

Do you use IPS in Sophos?

How many devices are on your network?

Do you plan on using the new Sophos XG or are you staying on Sophos 9.X?

What is your budget?

Thanks for the warning about Realtek NICs. I'll keep note of Intel & BCM NICs. 

 

Great Qs 

5-10 Down {Hope we can go up to 15/20 in 1-2 years - would love it}

1/2 Up - Asian Nation - 

 

PS: I did do a Research Paper on IDS'es during my Masters in CS  :)

So I googled Sophos IPS and found it, but doesnt clarify what it really means.
Not sure if I should / should not use it and how it applies to the Home/ SOHO scenario; What kind of Intrusion Scenarios must be considered here? 

 

I guess we have some idiots who will click yes to some stupid web based pop ups. 

Do let me know how with & without would change my requirements. 

 

Home/ Free edition - I don't think at a total we'll go past that 50 IP limit... Primary devices at a time max to 10/15/20. Mobile devices - Not extensive & infrequent. 

I just downloaded a .ISO - I think it is 9.x - Open to both as I start fresh.. 

Budget - Value for money.. keep it inexpensive. So that 125 - 150$ boxes looked pretty good to me. Even lower.. welcome it. ha ha! 

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I posted here and when I searched I found more hits for Sophos on the Networking forum, so I figured maybe that's a better place? Maybe here is better - I leave it to your wisdom 

 

Nice. Thanks for the suggestion. I just saw a Braswell box few days back on Amazon for 130/150, but I dont think it was Dual NIC. 

 

Thanks for the warning about Realtek NICs. I'll keep note of Intel & BCM NICs. 

 

Great Qs 

5-10 Down {Hope we can go up to 15/20 in 1-2 years - would love it}

1/2 Up - Asian Nation - 

 

PS: I did do a Research Paper on IDS'es during my Masters in CS  :)

So I googled Sophos IPS and found it, but doesnt clarify what it really means.
Not sure if I should / should not use it and how it applies to the Home/ SOHO scenario; What kind of Intrusion Scenarios must be considered here? 

 

I guess we have some idiots who will click yes to some stupid web based pop ups. 

Do let me know how with & without would change my requirements. 

 

Home/ Free edition - I don't think at a total we'll go past that 50 IP limit... Primary devices at a time max to 10/15/20. Mobile devices - Not extensive & infrequent. 

I just downloaded a .ISO - I think it is 9.x - Open to both as I start fresh.. 

Budget - Value for money.. keep it inexpensive. So that 125 - 150$ boxes looked pretty good to me. Even lower.. welcome it. ha ha! 

Thanks for the info. Have a look at this link for an overview of IPS http://www.astaro.com/node/11352

Basically your protection comes alive when you use IPS, It uses Snort as the main engine for it https://snort.org/

Unless your already using UTM 9.x I would say go right to Sophos XG so you don't have to worry about upgrade pains and relearning Sophos, XG is completely different and is the direction Sophos is going now. UTM 9 is still supported for now but its on a end-of-life timer and we don't know when support ends. XG also does not have the 50 IP limit but rather they limit the memory to 6GB and the CPU to 4 Cores

https://www.sophos.com/en-us/products/free-tools/sophos-xg-firewall-home-edition.aspx

 

If I where you I would go for XG becouse it seems lighter on system resources then UTM 9.x and browsing the internet feels faster as well. On the hardware front I was going to build another Sophos XG box for my daughter using the parts below, Its a bit over your budgit but it would make a very nice router for home use.

Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157614

Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129185

 

Hope the info helps...

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I will go through your links. Much appreciated. Given the contrasting reviews, I dont mind dropping them both into a VM and checking them out. 

 

I cant seem to find the place where i can download the 9.x UTM ISO. Anyone have the ISO name? 

 

I recently downloaded this - asg-9.355-1.1.iso

from here: https://www.sophos.com/en-us/support/utm-downloads.aspx -

 

What did I end up downloading? Did I download the last release of 9.x UTM Free/ Home or the XG? 

 

UTM v9 software appliance

 

9.4 BETA1

asg-9.370-24.1.iso

Download

md5

 

9.355-1.1

asg-9.355-1.1.iso

Download

md5

 

Holy hell.. they are confusing.. They use - Essential - Home - Free - Firewall - UTM in such mixed up ways I cant distinguish one from the other. 

 

Sophos UTM Home Edition

https://www.sophos.com/en-us/products/free-tools/sophos-utm-home-edition.aspx

 

Sophos XG Firewall Home Edition

https://www.sophos.com/en-us/products/free-tools/sophos-xg-firewall-home-edition.aspx
 

UTM Support Downloads
https://www.sophos.com/en-us/support/utm-downloads.aspx
 

These downloads are for installation support for existing partners and customers only. Use the links below to gain access to the full software files. Older legacy versions can be found on the Legacy UTM downloads page (requires a MySophos account).

If you are looking for Sophos XG Firewall downloads then please click here.

 

If you are interested in Sophos UTM but haven’t yet purchased it, follow the link to sign up for a free trial. Alternatively, if you want a free trial of the Sophos Firewall products then follow the link to sign up for a Sophos FirewallSophos Firewall Manager or Sophos iView free trial.

Sophos UTM

Complete unified threat management for your network. Existing customers may download the full ISO below for installation support.

Sophos UTM Smart Installer

 
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Sophos UTM Essential Firewall

The Essential Firewall Edition is a free version of the Sophos UTM software and offers fundamental security functions to help protect any business network. Start today and implement a firewall into your company’s IT environment—free of charge.

 

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