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As a Synology fanboy and having looked at the live demo of QNAP I am on the side of agreeing that Synology has superior software, Lots of QNAP software is in beta and whats not in beta just feels/looks unfinished to me. Have you had a chance to read this review from AnandTech on the new TS-451+? http://www.anandtech.com/show/9749/qnap-ts451-soho-nas-review

They say "we would recommend the TS-453 Pro over the TS-451+. For the TS-451+ to become a compelling choice, the pricing aspect needs to be addressed"

 

O yes the old Mitty unreliable backup/restores of Microsoft's WHS/WSE, I feel your pain with this and one of many reasons I no longer use WHS/WSE in favor of Synology NAS. Veeam Endpoint Backup FREE with a NAS is a winning combination for sure.

 

You and I have a conversations in other threads about running Plex media server on the NAS, I am still not sure how well that's going to work for you if your going to try and have Plex trans-code, I do have a Celeron J1900 bare-bones coming in the next few days for testing Plex on. I will post my findings in the Media forums in the next 10 days or so of how it worked. If your interested in what I ordered see below-

 

Gigabyte NUC http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VBNSO8U?colid=1N6867G1O15RY&coliid=I37VDMZO4AICXG&ref_=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl

Samsung SSD 850 EVO http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OAJ412U?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00

Crucial 8GB Single DDR3 Memory http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006YG8X9Y?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00

Transcoding is the one thing that is making me hesitate about buying a NAS. Running Plex smoothly is mandatory.

 

Which software you putting on the NUC?

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Transcoding is the one thing that is making me hesitate about buying a NAS. Running Plex smoothly is mandatory.

 

Which software you putting on the NUC?

Another option is to run a separate box just to run Plex for doing the transcoding.  I know this adds additional cost plus the extra power.  But I personally have been toying with this idea.  

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Another option is to run a separate box just to run Plex for doing the transcoding.  I know this adds additional cost plus the extra power.  But I personally have been toying with this idea.  

 

You're not the only one. My workflow involves storing one copy in folder rips and the other transcoded to a high quality format automatically by MyMovies. 

I use the MyMovies on 2011 which I am eager to get away from. I think I can install the server version of MyMovies on Windows10 and replicate that

functionality. I assume a QNAP NAS can play that without  further transcoding? Getting a beefier NAS just for transcoding sure drives up the price. 

Otherwise I just need a big storage pool.

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Transcoding is the one thing that is making me hesitate about buying a NAS. Running Plex smoothly is mandatory.

 

Which software you putting on the NUC?

Windows 10 and Plex both server & client. How many streams will you be running @once from Plex? How many of those streams will be direct-play vs trans-coding?

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I am interested in the NAS boxes from ASUSTOR. They seem to be video freindly, HDMI on the box and many models set to transcode:

http://www.asustor.com/product?p_id=45?lan=en

That looks like a nice box however if one is thinking of running Plex on it its way under powered, Have a look at the recommended hardware specs for Plex below-

https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/201774043

 

The processor that's in that ASUSTOR is the "Celeron N3050" it only has a PassMark score of 809 https://cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+N3050+%40+1.60GHz&id=2541

The Gigabyte NUC that I just purchased has the Celeron J1900 proccessor in it and has a PassMark score of 1885 http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+J1900+%40+1.99GHz

I am very interested to see what this box can do with Plex. Acording to Plex specs that J1900 has about enough horse power for 1 BD stream with trans-coding but I have seen reports from others that it can handle more then that so we shell see very soon. I will report my findings in the media forum. These are all great NAS boxes to you think about running Plex on them, They just don"t have enough grunt.

Another option is to run a separate box just to run Plex for doing the transcoding.  I know this adds additional cost plus the extra power.  But I personally have been toying with this idea.  

Agreed, That is the best option without spending the big bucks on a NAS with a Core i series processor...

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My current home server runs on a mini itx running a celeron j1900. I've documented the build in the hardware sub forum.

 

It transcodes to plex just fine. Even blue-ray mkv rips. My pass mark score is roughly 3000. Plex recommends a minimum of 2200 I believe.

 

An I3 may be warranted if you are transcoding multiple streams.

 

Big advantage of the j1900 is low power consumption. My system board is rated for 10 watts tdp and the whole system draws less than 20 watts under load

 

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That looks like a nice box however if one is thinking of running Plex on it its way under powered, Have a look at the recommended hardware specs for Plex below-

https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/201774043

 

The processor that's in that ASUSTOR is the "Celeron N3050" it only has a PassMark score of 809 https://cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+N3050+%40+1.60GHz&id=2541

The Gigabyte NUC that I just purchased has the Celeron J1900 proccessor in it and has a PassMark score of 1885 http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+J1900+%40+1.99GHz

I am very interested to see what this box can do with Plex. Acording to Plex specs that J1900 has about enough horse power for 1 BD stream with trans-coding but I have seen reports from others that it can handle more then that so we shell see very soon. I will report my findings in the media forum. These are all great NAS boxes to you think about running Plex on them, They just don"t have enough grunt.

Agreed, That is the best option without spending the big bucks on a NAS with a Core i series processor...

I wasn't really thinking about Plex. There seems to be some forum members that like blending a media server and an HTPC. At face value the ASUSTOR seem to be a good fit.

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My current home server runs on a mini itx running a celeron j1900. I've documented the build in the hardware sub forum.

 

It transcodes to plex just fine. Even blue-ray mkv rips. My pass mark score is roughly 3000. Plex recommends a minimum of 2200 I believe.

 

An I3 may be warranted if you are transcoding multiple streams.

 

Big advantage of the j1900 is low power consumption. My system board is rated for 10 watts tdp and the whole system draws less than 20 watts under load

 

Sent from my IdeaTab S6000-F using Tapatalk

Al thanks for sharing, Could you please post the link to your documented build in the hardware forum? Also no disrespect but the Celeron J1900 does not have a PassMark score of 3000, Its 1885 see link below-

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+J1900+%40+1.99GHz

 

As for Plex the recommendation is 2000 for every BD stream with trans-coding, See this link- https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/201774043

 

As for a Core i3 on average has a PassMark score of 4210 so if we are going by Plex recommendations that will support 2 BD streams with trans-coding, See link below for the PassMark score-

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-3220+%40+3.30GHz

The sweat spot if you need/want multiple users with full BD trans-coding is a Core i5 as long as your not trying to be Netflix ^_^

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my build was documented in this post from back in August

 

http://homeservershow.com/forums/index.php?/topic/9835-low-power-consumption-quiet-operation-windows-10-home-server/

 

I ran the passmark benchmark when I first got the system fired up  and that is what I got

 

in any event,  it transcodes a MKV blue ray rip  right to a Roku 3 without any issues -  but only single 

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