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Hi there,

although this is my first post in this forum I've already read a lot here.

I'm currently in the market for buying a Microserver from HP (since my Synology DS212+ got too slow for me).

As Gen8 of the Microserver now is available for over 2 years and the rackmounted Gen9 servers already are available,

I'm wondering whether/when a Gen9 of the Microserver will come out.

The reason I'm asking is that I want to avoid buying a (well known and tested!) product which will be superseded in a few
weeks/months. I know, IT is moving fast and there always will be something new around the corner, but ...

Also, getting a (Xeon) CPU for the 1150 socket becomes more and more difficult.

I basically have the following questions:

- So does anybody have any new information about if/when a Gen9 Microserver will come out?
- If this marks the end of life of the Microservers, are there any *real* alternatives regarding size footprint and noise?
- Is the mainboard of a Gen8 standard Mini-ITX so that I just could replace it with a new (server-grade) board with 1151 socket?
- Did actually somebody try to replace the Gen8 mainboard with something else yet?

Thanks in advance!

Charles

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- So does anybody have any new information about if/when a Gen9 Microserver will come out?

We know as much as you.

 

- If this marks the end of life of the Microservers, are there any *real* alternatives regarding size footprint and noise?

I figured the Microserver Gen8 was on the way out due to the steep rebates being offered to clear the channel of old inventory but recently HP have added several new SKUs for the Microserver. The first change was one that doubled the RAM from 2GB as standard to 4GB and now they've just released a new SKU that uses some specific i3 CPUs. A new system firmware image has been released as well. If a Gen9 was soon, it would be odd to do these new SKUs.

 

A very nice alternative in a similar form factor is the Supermicro Superserver 5028D-TN4T. It is significantly more powerful the Microserver Gen8 and whatever the Gen9 will turn out to be. It is however, also significantly more expensive.

 

- Is the mainboard of a Gen8 standard Mini-ITX so that I just could replace it with a new (server-grade) board with 1151 socket?

No. It is a custom design for the Microserver. Nothing else fits without modifications to the case at which point, you might as well just buy a mini-ITX case instead.

 

- Did actually somebody try to replace the Gen8 mainboard with something else yet?

It isn't standard.
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Thank you very much for the fast reply and the information -- could you point me to the new SKU, maybe also to the one with the i3? I assume the one with the i3 has non-ECC RAM then?

 

The Supermicro Superserver 5028D-TN4T was not on my radar yet, pretty neat (and indeed expensive!) device. I wonder what makes it *that* expensive, as it costs more than 1300 EUR (in the EU) currently in a barbone version.

 

It reminds me a bit about the IW-MS04 from In Win: http://www.in-win.com.tw/Server/zh/goods.php?act=view&id=IW-MS04

The IW-MS04, however, only costs nearly 10% of the price of the Superserver, at least in the EU.

 

Too bad that the Gen8 has a non-standard design, I'd love to just use the excellent case for my own stuff.

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could you point me to the new SKU, maybe also to the one with the i3?

712317-001 is the old Celeron G1610T with 2GB ECC RAM.

819185-001 is the Celeron G1610T with 4GB ECC RAM.

712318-001 is the old Pentium G2020T with 2GB ECC RAM.

819186-001 is the i3 3240 with 4GB ECC RAM.

819187-001 is the Xeon E3-1220Lv2 with 4GB ECC RAM.

 

-001 is US

-421 is EU

 

I assume the one with the i3 has non-ECC RAM then?

It uses ECC RAM and HP list it as coming with ECC RAM. Intel ARK for some reason used to show ECC support on some of the i3 CPUs but no longer does. We don't know why.

 

I wonder what makes it *that* expensive, as it costs more than 1300 EUR (in the EU) currently in a barbone version.

The specification and the fact it is Supermicro make it expensive. 10G ethernet in a small server like the Superserver 5028D-TN4T is unusual. The Xeon is unusual as well since it is an octo-core Xeon. The Superserver 5028D-TN4T is very well suited to duty as a virtualisation host with the large number of CPU cores and the ability to have a large amount of RAM installed.

 

The IW-MS04, however, only costs nearly 10% of the price of the Superserver, at least in the EU.

The IW-MS04 is just a case. It doesn't have a motherboard inside it.
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I would of expected them to drop the Gen9 end of this year early next, the fact that they have now dropped a few new SKU's suggests otherwise though, unless they have a lot of spare bits laying around and getting rid of them means adding CPU support and new SKU's, seems unlikely though...

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