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    Windows 8.1 Update, Post Build Q&A on Surface Geeks 63


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    I'm back, I'm tired and need a vacation due to my vacation! I'm also trying to keep Darren and John in line by quizzing them on what happened at Build.  Again, we go deep into Windows Phone and Surface.  No mention of Surface at Build so I ask what would you buy in the future?

     

    Did you update your 8.1? We did and discuss it. Plenty to talk about this week.  Episode 62 is YouTube only and can be found here.  My thanks to John and Darren for filling in last week.

     

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    Episode 63 Shownotes and Links

     

     

    No April 2014 firmware updates for Surface devices, Windows 8.1 Update available instead, WinBeta, Ron, April 8, 2014

     

    Support for Windows XP ends now, The Fire Hose, April 8, 2014

     

    Microsoft to Windows XP users: The jig is up, ZDNet, Lance Whitney, April 8, 2014

     

    Nokia wins Chinese approval for Microsoft deal, Reuters, Sakari Suoninen, April 8, 2014

     

    Delta Flight Attendants Upgrade to Nokia Lumia 1520 Phablets, PCMag, Angela Moscaritolo, April 7, 2014

     

    Additional Nokia Cyan Update Details Revealed, Ubergizmo, Tyler Lee, April 8, 2014

     

    Nokia begins pushing business to switch to the Lumia 1520 with new ad, WinBeta, Alan Buckingham, April 7, 2014

     

    Nokia X buyers to get 500MB of free 3G data per month from Airtel, Press Trust of India, April 8, 2014

     

    Nokia Lumia 630 now on pre-order in Russia for $224, WMPoweruser, Surur, April 8, 2014

     

    Nokia Lumia 1020 scores another science win, WMPoweruser, Surur, April 8, 2014

     

    Microsoft shows off next-gen Windows for connected cars, PCWorld, Mark Hachman, April 7, 2014

     

    Windows 8.1 users: It's time to move to Windows 8.1 Update, ZDNet, Mary Jo Foley, April 7, 2014

     

    Windows 8.1 Update 1 Arrives It's finally here, WinSuperSite, Paul Thurrott, April 8, 2014

     

    Office for iPad Microsoft Office for iPad engineers talk history, hint about futures, ZDNet, Mary Jo Foley, April 8, 2014

     

    Skype for Modern Windows 2.7, with Multiple Ways to Manage Your Availability, Skype Blog, April 8, 2014

     

    BBM for Windows Phone Device Enters Testing Phase [Report], Gizbot, Vivek Chhetri, April 8, 2014

     

    Evernote Windows Phone App Updated With much improved Notes Editor, WMPoweruser, Surur, April 8, 2014

     

    Video editing apps are coming to Windows Phone 8.1, here's a preview, Windows Phone Central, Mark Guim, April 8, 2014

     

    Customize your Windows Phone devices with the official Zedge app, Windows Phone Central, Abhishek Baxi, April 8, 2014

     

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    I have an interesting take on presenting the Microsoft world to iPhone people.  I discussed it at the end of this podcast but here it is briefly.  I know you show your Windows Phone to other people.  We all do.  I have stopped pushing WP so hard and have started showing folks OneDrive instead.  It works great on Android and iOS.  Convert them to OneDrive for photo backup and sharing.  Hopefully the rest will fall into place!

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    Must admit, I was a little saddened by this podcast. 
     
    From my point of view as a developer, I think everything they did at Build made perfect sense.
     
    Windows is obviously not going to get the developers building great apps on their platform by being the number one in sales.
     
    Q. So.. What can they do?
     
    A. Make their platform the easiest, best and most powerful to build your app on FIRST - because of the great opensource frameworks, coding tools, cloud, etc - it allows for truly amazeballs porting of your app to those lesser devices (that for some reason have the most market share).
     
     
    All you have to do is follow the haters: just look how many iOS/Android devs are crying and complaining about Microsoft trying to become more open..
     
    Seriously, their attitude is: "Opensource is always good.. unless it is Microsoft!"
     
    Damn haters. Although, I think it is a good sign. If fanbois are hating, then obviously they are worried.. I wonder why? Haha.

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    A little Notepad tip: enclose the file name in quotes to not have the .TXT extension appended (e.g., "reboot.bat").

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    A little Notepad tip: enclose the file name in quotes to not have the .TXT extension appended (e.g., "reboot.bat").

     
    Or go to the view menu on any file explorer page and tick the "File name extensions" box.

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    I have an interesting take on presenting the Microsoft world to iPhone people.  I discussed it at the end of this podcast but here it is briefly.  I know you show your Windows Phone to other people.  We all do.  I have stopped pushing WP so hard and have started showing folks OneDrive instead.  It works great on Android and iOS.  Convert them to OneDrive for photo backup and sharing.  Hopefully the rest will fall into place!

    I'm simply taking the new CEO's advice. Get 'em on Services!

     
    It is still worthwhile to "push" WP.   WP 8.1 adds a ton of new stuff that some people argue takes it past iOS.
     
    Agree that OneDrive is a "killer service".   It is pretty powerful to be out on a trip taking pictures on WP, and then come home, flip on Xbox One, go to OneDrive and see the pictures on a big screen.  No extra steps.  Can also view on laptop, desktop, at home, at work, etc.
     
    I've also changed my data storage habits to put as much desktop data (docs, code, etc) on OneDrive.  I can control what data is local (on 8.1 and 7 machines), and it is all in the cloud for easy access from anywhere.  Game Changer.

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    The trouble is for me that I've already "pushed" Dropbox to friends and family two years ago because of how great the experience was on my previous Android phones. When most of these people have a few documents (One of my friends is a published poet, so just loads of Word documents) they don't need oodles of space in GB's, so the non-technical of this set of people will have a tough time adjusting to a move from one service to another (though I'm sure we're all at the level where we find this easy).
     
    When I do talk up WP to friends it's mainly about how good the interface is from a communication device perspective. The ease of viewing profiles/people and my history of interactions is the best feature I still find. However, what I used to say to people was "Look, I just press  this button and can seamlessly switch from SMS to Facebook messaging"; but sadly it looks like Facebook is leaving the messaging hub in WP8.1. This was also really cool because when you combine it with driving mode, people could see I was online and send a FB message but my phone would reply to them to say I'm driving.
     
    It might seem a bit extreme for most people here, but for me, this is the one thing that near enough outweighs all the cool new things about WP8.1 - I am undecided yet as to whether I will upgrade. I literally receive that many FB messages now compared to SMS or Twitter that to lose this feature is a bit of a crisis.
     
    I'm running our of reasons to recommend WP, which is sad, despite the great leaps forward made by the upcoming software release.

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    I did notice during the podcast you guys were flustered on how when you close a Metro app it takes you back to the start menu instead of the desktop. Of course you can make it go back to the desktop by clicking on the taskbar properties and enabling "Show Windows Store apps on the taskbar". Now, the taskbar will show up when your in a modern app and when you close the app it will take you back to the desktop.

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    One more thing I noticed in the podcast. I have no idea how your live tiles could have old news on them. Have you not updated them? My finance and Bing weather always have updated info. You kind of mislead people on that one.

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    I'm running  8.1 on my surface 2 and seems to run even faster, but then again I didn't have  any speed issues with my surface 2 before 8.1.

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