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[diggityDawg]

I tried upgrading the CPU in my EX485 last weekend to an E5200 and bricked the whole thing. It's a long story, but yes, I tried everything and the mobo is just fried. HP tech support won't sell me a replacement mobo, so my next best option is to get (or build) a replacement. I really love the form factor of the MSS's and don't know that I could build something that small that would remain cool and quiet (correct me if I'm wrong), so I'm leaning strongly towards buying another MSS. However, I seem to remember the EX490/495 was announced last September. I'd hate to buy a new MSS this month, only to find out there are brand new models out next month. So my question is, has anyone heard anything about the next models of MSS coming from HP? Any specs or release dates? Any conferences coming up that might be good for the big announcement?

Also, if I were to get an EX490, would that support a 64-bit OS? I thought only the EX495 would, but I just saw a post where they seemed to say all Atom processors support 64-bit operating systems...?

Thanks!

Eddie

[cskenney]

All of the HP Boxes MSS boxes are able to run a 64 bit OS.

[cskenney]

I should mention, if you were John "Diehard" Zajdler you would take that MSS box and figure out how to shoehorn a new motherboard in there.

[diehard]

Good one cskenney ROFL

[kermi]

Unless you *really* need it, i'd hold off getting new box untill Vail comes out.. I suspect there'll be all sort of intresting and wonderfull problems trying to upgrade V1 box to Vail.
Which is precisely what i want / intenend to do.. One way or another.

Oh.. and if i'd done enough research to figure out there's gonna be a new version sometime soon, i wouldn't have bought my EX490 yet..

Edited by kermi, 12 August 2010 - 08:24 AM.

[cskenney]

Why wait? There is nothing wrong with WHSv1. If you always wait for the next thing you will always be waiting. Meanwhile you would be missing out on backing up your PC's.

[diggityDawg]

I should mention, if you were John "Diehard" Zajdler you would take that MSS box and figure out how to shoehorn a new motherboard in there.

If I knew where to get a new motherboard, I would definitely take a shot at installing it! HP won't sell me one and I wasn't aware that there were other mfg's making motherboards for this form factor...? But if you know of some, PLEASE let me know!! I'd love to stick with this box until Vail is released, just can't go without a home server for months...

[cskenney]

My reply was something of an inside joke. If you listen to the podcasts and follow the forums you will learn that Diehard likes to "improve" his computers / servers.

I don't know if there is another motherboard that will fit inside the MSS box, but others may have some ideas.

[mrossco]

If you inspect the board or hunt around long enough through Google, you may figure out who's making the board for HP and whether or not they have another flavor of it that you can buy.

[Alvin Ramard]

Why wait? There is nothing wrong with WHSv1. If you always wait for the next thing you will always be waiting. Meanwhile you would be missing out on backing up your PC's.

I can't say I would recommend WHSv1 to anyone who will want to run Vail later. What's the upgrade cost going to be? I say go straight to Vail.

I'm running vail with a 2 TB HD in the storage pool and a 2TB HD not in the storage pool. I've got a scheduled task that copies files from the pool drive to the other drive. That 2nd drive should protect me against Vail crapping out.

The biggest problem with running Vail right now is the lack of addins.

[cskenney]

I can't say I would recommend WHSv1 to anyone who will want to run Vail later. What's the upgrade cost going to be? I say go straight to Vail.

I'm running vail with a 2 TB HD in the storage pool and a 2TB HD not in the storage pool. I've got a scheduled task that copies files from the pool drive to the other drive. That 2nd drive should protect me against Vail crapping out.

The biggest problem with running Vail right now is the lack of addins.

I am not saying don't try Vail, but there has been a number of people (including Dave, Jim, John and Chris) who have recommended you only use Vail for testing at this time. You may have yourself covered with the 2nd HD not in the storage pool. However, the scheduled task may mean you automatically change something on the backup drive that may include a corrupt file (is it syncing or only copying anything new). You should still have a manual backup that is a snapshot of the drive that you could go back to if needed.

My point on WHSv1 is that it is stable and works. No reason not to start using it now. Even if all you are going to use it for is to provide automatic backup of your desktop or laptop PCs, it is worth spending the money. Believe me, I have lost a hard drive that was not backed up and I don't ever want to have that happen again.

[Alvin Ramard]

I am not saying don't try Vail, but there has been a number of people (including Dave, Jim, John and Chris) who have recommended you only use Vail for testing at this time. You may have yourself covered with the 2nd HD not in the storage pool. However, the scheduled task may mean you automatically change something on the backup drive that may include a corrupt file (is it syncing or only copying anything new). You should still have a manual backup that is a snapshot of the drive that you could go back to if needed.

My point on WHSv1 is that it is stable and works. No reason not to start using it now. Even if all you are going to use it for is to provide automatic backup of your desktop or laptop PCs, it is worth spending the money. Believe me, I have lost a hard drive that was not backed up and I don't ever want to have that happen again.

I'm not trying to argue with you. Key point I wanted to get across is that going with v1 then Vail will mean an extra upgrade cost later. It's too bad that MS has not shed any light on what that will be. There's no question that v1 has lots to offer. This website wouldn't be here if it didn't.

I know going straight to Vail is not for everybody. I'm only using Vail as a file server and for backups. That works well for me. Like I hinted at before, the current lack of addins for Vail is not going to suit everybody.

After posting my earlier post I realized that the way I copy files from one drive to the other could end up copying corrupted files to my "backup" drive. I think that this weekend I'm going to change how this works. Instead of copying from client to storage pool, then from storage pool to backup drive, I'm going to do copying from client to pool and client to backup drive.