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    #1 ash

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    Posted 27 October 2012 - 12:47 PM

    Hello All

    This is my first post here so - Hello :D

    I am hoping you can help me i have been pondering for a long time as to what mobo bundle to get for my windows home server.

    I plan on running;
    4way CCTV DVR card (1x PCI slot)
    RAID 5 via highpoint card (1xPCIe slot)
    Video and music streaming and converting
    Central file and media server for the LAN as well as access away from the home
    Backups

    I have found this mobo which i believe will be good enough, any thoughts?

    http://www.novatech....mbb-32204g.html

    I am starting my RAID off with 2x western digital 2TB 6Gbps Caviar hard drives running in raid 5
    And i plan on having the operating system and internal applications on a separate drive is this possible?

    I don't have a budget but i am also looking to buy less expensive components

    Many thanks in advance
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    #2 ikon

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    Posted 27 October 2012 - 12:52 PM

    OK, first off, welcome to the HomeServerShow forums.

    Now, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it's impossible to have a RAID5 array with only 2 drives - the minimum is 3. To lower the cost a bit, you might want to consider the WD Red drives instead of the Caviar. The Reds are designed for RAID use.

    Generally, I wouldn't recommend having a WHS be used as a DVR. I would leave that to an HTPC.

    I'm not familiar with NovaTech. It's not even clear from the website whether NovaTech is the mobo maker, or just the retailer.

    I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'internal applications' but I highly recommend having the OS on it's own drive, separate from the data drives.
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    Posted 27 October 2012 - 01:05 PM

    A RAID 1 mirror is your only option at this point, if you want redundancy.
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    #4 ash

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    Posted 27 October 2012 - 01:29 PM

    Okay thank you


    Novatech is the retailer, i am not sure of the manufacturer of that board.

    From what the website informs you, would you think it will be compatible with WHS2011
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    Posted 27 October 2012 - 02:28 PM

    I would go with a name brand mobo. My preference is Gigabyte, with Asus & Intel second. At this point, it seems to me that an IvyBridge mobo would be the best option. For transcoding, I would go with an i5 or i7.
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    Posted 27 October 2012 - 03:05 PM

    For WHS, an i5 will be plenty.
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    Posted 27 October 2012 - 03:16 PM

    Okay thank you


    Novatech is the retailer, i am not sure of the manufacturer of that board.

    From what the website informs you, would you think it will be compatible with WHS2011


    Any motherboard will work with WHS2011. I say email them and ask what the model of the board is, then go from there. But from the looks of the bundle yea you should be fine with run WHS2011 with it.
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    Posted 27 October 2012 - 03:17 PM

    Stick with the known quantities as ikon suggested,
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    Posted 28 October 2012 - 05:40 PM

    If i was to start off with RAID1 as Ikon suggested, could i later change to RAID 5 when i add more drives?

    And i have decided i will be going with the I5 i have found a gigabyte board with I5 for around £200 on amazon

    Edited by ash, 28 October 2012 - 05:41 PM.

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    Posted 28 October 2012 - 06:10 PM

    No. You would have to start a new array.
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    Posted 28 October 2012 - 06:24 PM

    Okay thought as much. But i can just add to the existing RAID1 to increase the storage space i believe?
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    Posted 28 October 2012 - 07:27 PM

    Not sure about that. I think it depends on the RAID chipset be used.
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    Posted 28 October 2012 - 08:07 PM

    Okay thought as much. But i can just add to the existing RAID1 to increase the storage space i believe?

    Not sure about that. I think it depends on the RAID chipset be used.


    That will not work either unless there is something new I am not aware of. Raid 1 is a mirror so you have to add drives in pairs and each pair is unique.
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    Posted 29 October 2012 - 06:21 AM

    RAID 1 is two disks.....you could start getting more disks and create the new RAID 5 array and the old data would still be intact since it is mirrored.
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    Posted 29 October 2012 - 08:17 AM

    RAID 1 is two disks.....you could start getting more disks and create the new RAID 5 array and the old data would still be intact since it is mirrored.


    Just to clarify, you would build the raid 5 array separately and once it is complete you transfer the data from the raid 1 to the raid 5. I don't believe you can make one disk from the raid 1 be part of the initial raid 5 build as I think it will wipe the data.
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    Posted 29 October 2012 - 08:27 AM

    Yes you can transfer the current data. What I was trying to say was, you could remove one of the current drives in the RAID 1 array and use it to build the new array. The 3TB drives are getting down to the point where I would build the RAID 5 array with those.
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    Posted 29 October 2012 - 09:03 AM

    Are there no controllers out there that will let you convert a RAID1 into a RAID10 after adding 2 more drives?
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    Posted 29 October 2012 - 11:09 AM

    I was thinking about 1+0 as I was writing but since we discuss it so infrequently, it would be easier to pull one drive out of the mirror and get to more to build the 5 array, copy the data over. and the break the mirror and add the fourth drive to the RAID 5 array. IMO.
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    #19 ikon

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    Posted 29 October 2012 - 11:31 AM

    Don't disagree with using RAID5; was just putting out options.
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    Posted 29 October 2012 - 02:41 PM

    No problems with me Dude.....
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