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#1 Bandalo

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 05:01 PM

I'm hoping you guys out there might be able to help with this...

I have a WHS 2011 install that's running on a VMWare ESXi server. I've been running it for more than a year with no problems. It backs up 3 clients on my home network, and I don't use it for much else.

A month or so ago I started seeing corrupt backups. I did the repair option a few times, but it would always come back a couple days later. I deleted the backup database entirely and started over, and the same problem popped up again. So, I wiped out the entire VM, and completely reinstalled WHS 2011 on a new VM, and reinstalled the connector on all the clients. Worked for about a week, now the problem has popped up again.

VMware isn't reporting any disk errors, and none of the other VMs are having problems.

Any idea where I should start looking?

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 05:39 PM

Any updates available for VMWare?
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Posted 28 June 2012 - 07:55 PM

Running 5.0 right now, and I have been since it came out. There's an update available, but it has some known bugs, so I don't want to install it yet.

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 08:34 PM

Known bugs?

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 10:15 PM

The known bugs in 5.0U1 have to do with auto-start not working properly for some VMs...that's why I haven't updated from 5.0 yet..

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 07:30 AM

This blog article says it's just in the free version, which we're not running at work of course. http://blogs.vmware....0-update-1.html

However, there is a thread that says it's not just in the free version and is indeed broken in the licensed version. http://communities.v...art=30&tstart=0

Thanks for looking out!


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Have you re installed the client connector?

#7 Bandalo

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 07:56 AM

Well, I'm running the free version of ESXi on this machine. It only has a few VMs, the WHS 2011 instance, a Win7 instance, and a very small LINUX appliance. The LINUX appliance runs some stuff on my network though, so the auto-start is critical. Database was corruped again when I checked this morning. This is really getting annoying.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 09:29 AM

If it helps, all of the errors appear to be on one particular desktop. Or at least, that's the one that always loses data after the client backup database repair.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 09:30 PM

If it helps, all of the errors appear to be on one particular desktop. Or at least, that's the one that always loses data after the client backup database repair.


Hmmmm, perhaps that desktop is having disk issues?

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 09:33 PM

I thought that might be the case, so last week I nuked the machine and reinstalled Win7 from scratch on it. Then I did another reinstall of WHS 2011 just to make sure. The only unusual thing about this machine is that it's running two SSDs in RAID 0. Haven't had any disk errors reported by the machine itself, just the corruption in the backup database.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 09:39 PM

Might be worth putting a spinning drive into that computer, disconnect the SSDs for now, install Win7 on the spinning drive, and try backing it up. You know, just to check if it IS the SSDs.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 09:42 PM

I can give it a try this weekend. It's gotta be something with the RAID though if that's it. This machine has been my primary gaming machine for a loong time now, and it's had an SSD for over a year and a half. The RAID 0 was only setup about 6 months ago though.

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 07:37 AM

How many drives are we talking about?
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Posted 30 June 2012 - 08:03 AM

2 Kingston 120GBs. Running RAID 0 off the motherboard's controller.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 09:57 AM

Well, further time has shown that if I run repair a few times, the problem will go away. Until the next scheduled backup cleanup runs, then it pops up again.

#16 ikon

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 03:36 PM

Not terribly reassuring, is it?

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#17 Bandalo

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 07:26 AM

Not in the least.

Is there any way to dig though the logs for the server backup cleanup task? I've gone through the regular windows logs in the event viewer, and I can't find anything unusual.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 09:20 AM

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#19 Bandalo

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 09:25 AM

The pro version of what?

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 10:32 AM

The only thing that remained constant in your environment was the hard drive the backups were going to. Possibly a bad drive or at least a failing one?
Windows 7 Desktop - Antec 100 Case, Intel D8H67BL, OCZ 550W PSU, Intel i3-530 CPU w/16GB G-Skill DDR3 1333 RAM
Server 2012 - Fractal Arc Midi, CoolerMaster M600 PSU, ASUS P8H67V, Intel i5-2500 CPU w/32GBG-Skill DDR3 1333 RAM, 90 GIG OCZ SSD OS Drive – Roles: Hyper-V (WHS-SharePoint-DC-SQL-Exchange-WSE 2012), Print Server - Rocket RAID 2720 5x2TB
HTPC Build - Silverstone GD05 Case, ASUS P7H55-M PRO, CoolerMaster M600W PSU, Intel i3-530 CPU w/4GB G-Skill DDR3 1333 RAM. OCZ 60GB SSD Drive for the OS with a 120GB WD 2.5" Blue drive for data storage.
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