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#1 donwieber

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Posted 02 June 2012 - 08:22 AM

I have a HTPC that I rip movies onto and a WHS 2011 pc that I backup onto and I get constant 25MB a second upload/download speed to my server, Is that normal? I know Gigabit Lan's max out at 125 so I thought I would have better transfer speed.

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Posted 02 June 2012 - 10:08 AM

Unfortunately, you haven't provided enough info about your configuration to make any suggestions. 25MB/sec is not screaming fast by any means, but it's not awful either. After all, it is 250 Mb/sec.

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Posted 02 June 2012 - 12:05 PM

Yes, we need to know such things as routers, switches, cabling, etc and where each device sits on the LAN
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Posted 02 June 2012 - 08:05 PM

Best to use a normal file copy to test. IF you are using backup it might be hindered by other factors. If you use something like a BD/HD movie you should see more what your network or system is capable of. Speeds can be affected the sending or receiving system/drive. I can usually see as much as 20 Meg variation from system to system but the range is always between 90-110. Try a file copy of a large file and see what you get as I suspect you have an issue somewhere as that seems very low to me.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 06:16 AM

Just a thought, but is antivirus running on either one of those systems?

Your numbers are horrible. They should be nearer 100 MB/s depending on hard drive spec and the state of your systems (busy, or not busy) if you are transferring movies rips.

Question: have you ever gotten decent transfer numbers between these systems?



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Posted 03 June 2012 - 12:24 PM

Just a thought, but is antivirus running on either one of those systems?

Your numbers are horrible. They should be nearer 100 MB/s depending on hard drive spec and the state of your systems (busy, or not busy) if you are transferring movies rips.

Question: have you ever gotten decent transfer numbers between these systems?



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That was direct.... :D Antivirus should not cut it to 25 though but the numbers are definitively low.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 01:55 PM

We still do not know if this is wireless, wired, etc and how many connection points there are in the LAN.
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Posted 03 June 2012 - 02:48 PM

We still do not know if this is wireless, wired, etc and how many connection points there are in the LAN.

Right. And meanwhile I'm exploring ideas other than networking - things that could alone or cumulatively account for 'sub-optimal' performance.
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 03:40 PM

Unfortunately, you haven't provided enough info about your configuration to make any suggestions. 25MB/sec is not screaming fast by any means, but it's not awful either. After all, it is 250 Mb/sec.


Is that Canadian math? I thought 1 Byte = 8 bits. Eh?
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 03:48 PM

Is that Canadian math? I thought 1 Byte = 8 bits. Eh?


Actually, it's normally better to count 10 bits/byte. This helps to cover overhead like checksums, padding, etc. I have used this technique for 30+ years with fantastic success. By that I mean it correlates to real world experience way more often. It's also a lot easier to calculate in your head. :)

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 03:56 PM

Is that Canadian math? I thought 1 Byte = 8 bits. Eh?

Actually, it's normally better to count 10 bits/byte. This helps to cover overhead like checksums, padding, etc. I have used this technique for 30+ years with fantastic success. By that I mean it correlates to real world experience way more often. It's also a lot easier to calculate in your head. :)


It isn't Canadian, its metric. In the US it is 8 bits to the byte, and two nybbles per bit plus 16 ounces per MB.

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 04:29 PM

It isn't Canadian, its metric. In the US it is 8 bits to the byte, and two nybbles per bit plus 16 ounces per MB.


Metric, Canadian, is there really a difference?
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 08:52 PM

Metric, Canadian, is there really a difference?


Err. Joke (hence the 16 ounces per MB making fun of the "English" system only Americans still use.)

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 09:19 PM

Err. Joke (hence the 16 ounces per MB making fun of the "English" system only Americans still use.)


I was waiting for your definition of a Terabyte.
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 10:20 PM

I was waiting for your definition of a Terabyte.

About 128 gallons of data. Unless you're using hard disk manufacturer math, in which case it is closer to 125.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 09:17 AM

I truly wish there was a way to disable encryption on SMB for LAN <-> LAN traffic. The overhead that SMB imposes on networks is substantial, especially in corp. environments. Doing RAMFS (RAM to RAM) transfers on my network shows that SMB has around 30% more overhead than NFS. The most speed I could get out of a well maintained gigabit network were around 350Mbits per second, and that was after a LOT of samba tuning.

iSCSI on the other hand, is a whole 'nother bag of worms....but then most block level storage protocols are.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 08:59 PM

Anyone know of a network speed analyzer? Using media center on my xbox I get the network error all the time and need to find a way to determine what is causing it. I only have one switch in the entire house so that switch (gigabit) connects the HTPC directly to the xbox.
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 09:13 PM

Anyone know of a network speed analyzer? Using media center on my xbox I get the network error all the time and need to find a way to determine what is causing it. I only have one switch in the entire house so that switch (gigabit) connects the HTPC directly to the xbox.


I use Lan Speed Test -- here's an example: http://homeserversho...rver-to-ex-487/
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Posted 11 July 2012 - 05:28 AM

I use Lan Speed Test -- here's an example: http://homeserversho...rver-to-ex-487/


Thanks
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Posted 13 July 2012 - 11:41 AM

You could also try jPerf. It can give you throughput measurements: i.e. how many megabits/sec. Qcheck is another one that's a bit older but is good for quick checks. It doesn't work on Win7 or later though, IIRC.l

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