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#21 yodafett

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 04:05 PM

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Here is a shot of the MRAC?
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Posted 01 April 2012 - 04:23 PM

And a MicroServer compatible discrete graphics card, if you need such a thing? There are many more on
EBay for sale too.

http://www.ebay.com/...d#ht_3923wt_952

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 08:01 AM

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Me im like Diehard and trying to figure out what i can put on the port circled in RED

The image seems to be broken, but based on my reading of the specs (here http://h18004.www1.h.../13716_div.HTML) and your description of a mystery port it's probably the spot for a TPM module (HP Part # 488069-B21).

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 09:54 AM

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Here is a shot of the MRAC?


Do you think it has it's own on-board GPU or do you think it simply redirects video info from the mobo GPU to the MRAC? It's not important - just wondering. And thanks for the pic; nice to see one up close, so to speak.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 04:38 PM

I figure it is a redirect. Considering the bios let's you reserve up to 512 mb (ahem it's a freaking server). I do believe the bios let's you use both an onboard and addin video at one time different than intel.
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 06:20 AM

I figure it is a redirect. Considering the bios let's you reserve up to 512 mb (ahem it's a freaking server). I do believe the bios let's you use both an onboard and addin video at one time different than intel.


I was curious if it's implemented like some Dell computers where, once you install and add-in video card, it takes over and you can't use the onboard video at all.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 05:43 AM

I was curious if it's implemented like some Dell computers where, once you install and add-in video card, it takes over and you can't use the onboard video at all.


The HP ILO card does take over the video duties and the onboard video is disabled.

Whilst not cheap, the card is full-featured unlike HPs ILO option on most of their servers where upgrade keys are required for the extras such as virtual KVM and virtual media.

With a copy of WHS 2011 on a USB stick plugged into my laptop, I installed WHS on my microserver with the server in the basement and myself sat on the sofa in the lounge (was being sociable with the family :) ). Full console access (including BIOS) and power ability, all from the comfort of the sofa.

Entirely unnecssary (apart from the social bit, of course) but good, geeky fun.
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 07:20 AM

If the trend to headless servers with no onboard video capability continues I think these cards are going to become more and more important. it's just inconceivable to think things will continue the way they are now with many WHS boxes. There are times when you just have to be able to see WTH is going on with a computer during bootup.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:50 AM

No way, or at least no good way, to troubleshoot one!
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#30 Mr Fixit

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 07:42 AM

Hi,
Could you please give me the part number for that 80 Dollar management card?

Thank you,

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:24 AM

Hi,
Could you please give me the part number for that 80 Dollar management card?

Thank you,


HP 615095-B21 Micro Server Remote Access Card Kit $84.99 at Newegg w/$1.99 shipping
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Posted 13 July 2012 - 12:22 PM

IMHO, if any company sells a headless system, it ought to be mandatory that they provide ILO-type functionality onboard. None of this $80 add-on card BS. They should be able to build it in for less than $10 if it's onboard.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 12:50 PM

IMHO, if any company sells a headless system, it ought to be mandatory that they provide ILO-type functionality onboard. None of this $80 add-on card BS. They should be able to build it in for less than $10 if it's onboard.


The MicroServer is not a headless Server. It has a video port on the back. It's on the back of the case left of the USB 2.0 slots:

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The 615095-B21 is a KVM over IP that's going to cost more than $10.
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Posted 13 July 2012 - 02:01 PM

I'm aware that the HP is not headless; it's just a comment about headless systems in general. Mind you, having an ILO card for the Micro-server is great; makes remote admin a lot easier.

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Posted 16 September 2012 - 11:31 PM

I posted earlier in the ESXi thread .. but was just wondering if I should post one in here too ...

Admins ... please feel free to delete this one if you feel it's inappropriate.

I'm after some advice / recommendations on a RAID card to buy. I've recently bought my first N40L, with 8Gb of RAM, 4 x 3TB Drives and I also bought a RocketRAID 2710 so that I could RAID 5 my disks. Anyway it now turns out that I didn't research well enough and that card isn't supported by ESXi 5. :( does anyone have any hints or tips as to which RAID card I should get?

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 09:23 AM

This is the most complete list:

http://www.vmware.co...r&sortOrder=Asc
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 06:08 PM

Thanks Mr. Wills. I know about the compatability list ... I was just hoping to get some advice from people on these forums that had already gone through the exercise of finding and testing one, to ensure that it fits in the box and does what they want it to do.

Either way I've already begun trolling through the list.

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 08:06 PM

I was bummed to discover the 2720 did not work with v5.x
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 08:20 PM

Yeah and no 2710 either! Sooo thought I was on a winner with that one when I bought it. It's seriously soured my N40L experience. I was sooooo happy when I was finally allowed and could afford to buy it! Just goes to show ... research and double tripple check!

Dave

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 11:13 PM

Anyway ... moving along ... If I'm going to move forward without spending too much more on my new toy I see two options.

Option 1: Install the 250Gb HDD that came with the server into the optical bay and just run Win Server 2K8R2 on it and use my 2710 to RAID 5 my 4x3TB disks as storage.

or

Option 2: Install Win Server 2K8R2 Server onto a 64Gb Usb stick that I have and use the RAID Card for storage as above.

If I go with option 1 what cables will I need to get as I have no spare parts at the moment (All my stuff like that is interstate at the moment)

I think that Option 2 while it may work will probably be a fairly dodgy choice for running Win Server 2K8R2.

thoughts, opinions, anyone?

Cheers,

Dave.

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PS loving this forum at the moment. So glad it's here.
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