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[Sorta Oldguy]

Don't know where to leave this tip, but I suggest that if you are going to do a Refresh, get a copy of EasyBCD. I've been dual booting Win7 and Win8CP without a problem. It installed that way automatically when I installed Win8CP and from the control panel you get the same options as when dual booting any other 2 post-XP OS's. As described, I did a Refresh yesterday that seemed to do ok. Hadn't paid attention to any of the bootup screens after that since I was only interested in looking at Win8 last night. Shut down the machine last night. When I booted up this morning intending to do some actual work, it booted straight into Win8. Tried shutting down and restarting a couple of times. No change. After brief panic and then irritation at possibly having to find a Win7 disk or usb stick to fix this, I had vague recollections of BCD editors. Looked at a few pages about editing the entries in a command prompt. Nixed that. Finally remembered EasyBCD from Neowin which I imagine most here are familir with. Haven't had to use it since the Vista/Win7 beta but it still works.. If you go to the Neowin site, it says it's $25, but that's for commercial use, which I don't consider this it. Installed it, told it to add the Win7 partition as a boot entry and all is well again.

BTW, it does demand installing Dotnet 3.5 during installation if you don't have it already installed.

Edited by Sorta Oldguy, 26 March 2012 - 06:48 AM.

[G. WadeTech]

I tried looking for this on the HSS forums but nothing yet so here I am.

Have any of you noticed that after you install the Hyper-V windows feature on Windows 8 your CPU power management changes according to Resource Monitor and Task Manager? I have and don't like it.

Over at Social.TechNet they have a thread going about the issue: http://social.techne...66-cda0ce646e37

[TheGuy]

Hyper-V on windows-8 NOT working :

 

Gentlemen, Ladies, anyone....

 

OK I had to try to install Client Hyper-V on a Windows-8 Box that I had doing nothing... (test machine)  and unfortunately after trying a lot of stuff I was unable to get Client Hyper-V working on this motherboard.  Has anyone out there , experienced the same issue and got it resolve?  I have simply tried everything and cannot get around this WALL.  I know it's older hardware, but it should work...maybe;... perhaps...I hope.

 

Any input, comments solutions would be greatly welcomed... (else it means I will be buying something new ...)  here is the problem experienced and data collected:

 

On enabling Hyper-V in the “Turn Windows Features On or Off” menu, I was prompted to restart to complete the installation. It rebooted, installed some stuff, then rebooted again and again and then provided a "Restore" option.  I I did not select the restore option then at that point, it got as far as the Windows logo and then nothing – no spinner, no HDD light, no feedback – just the black screen and the Windows logo.

PC has EPT (SLAT) and I have all the virtualization enabled in the BIOS.
Hardware supports Second Level Address Translation (SLAT)
64-bit Windows 8 Pro
16 GB of RAM
Intel i5-760 processor reported:
   Number of CPU(s) One Physical Processor / 4 Cores / 4 Logical Processors / 64 bits
   Vendor Genuine Intel
   CPU Full Name Intel® Core™ i5 CPU 760 @ 2.80GHz
   Instructions MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, ET64, XD, VMX, SMX, EST, HT
   L1 Data Cache 4 x 32 KBytes
   L1 Instructions Cache 4 x 32 KBytes
   L2 Cache 4 x 256 KBytes
   L3 Cache 8192 KBytes

 

Intel® Processor Identification Utility
   Enabling VT BIOS
   Intel® Virtualization Technology  YES
   Intel® Hyper-Threading Technology NO
   Intel® 64 Architecture YES
   Intel VT-x with Extended Page Tables

 

Disable USB 3.0 [ since this was reported on some forums as an issue

]
Ran sysinternals "coreinfo -v" and it reported VMX and EPT are present:

 

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.2.9200]
© 2012 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Coreinfo v3.02 - Dump information on system CPU and memory topology
Copyright © 2008-2011 Mark Russinovich
Sysinternals - www.sysinternals.com

Intel® Core™ i5 CPU         760  @ 2.80GHz
Intel64 Family 6 Model 30 Stepping 5, GenuineIntel
HYPERVISOR      -       Hypervisor is present
VMX             *       Supports Intel hardware-assisted virtualization
EPT             *       Supports Intel extended page tables (SLAT)

 

Coreinfo v3.02 - Dump information on system CPU and memory topology
Copyright © 2008-2011 Mark Russinovich
Sysinternals - www.sysinternals.com

Intel® Core™ i5 CPU         760  @ 2.80GHz
Intel64 Family 6 Model 30 Stepping 5, GenuineIntel
HTT             -       Hyperthreading enabled
HYPERVISOR      -       Hypervisor is present
VMX             *       Supports Intel hardware-assisted virtualization
SVM             -       Supports AMD hardware-assisted virtualization
EM64T           *       Supports 64-bit mode

SMX             *       Supports Intel trusted execution
SKINIT          -       Supports AMD SKINIT
EIST            *       Supports Enhanced Intel Speedstep

NX              *       Supports no-execute page protection
PAGE1GB         -       Supports 1GB large pages
PAE             *       Supports > 32-bit physical addresses
PAT             *       Supports Page Attribute Table
PSE             *       Supports 4-MB pages
PSE36           *       Supports > 32-bit address 4-MB pages
PGE             *       Supports global bit in page tables
SS              *       Supports bus snooping for cache operations
VME             *       Supports Virtual-8086 mode

FPU             *       Implements i387 FP instructions
MMX             *       Supports MMX instruction set
MMXEXT          -       Implements AMD MMX extensions
3DNOW           -       Supports 3DNow! instructions
3DNOWEXT        -       Supports 3DNow! extension instructions
SSE             *       Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions
SSE2            *       Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 2
SSE3            *       Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 3
SSSE3           *       Supports Supplemental SIMD Extensions 3
SSE4.1          *       Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 4.1
SSE4.2          *       Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 4.2

AES             -       Supports AES extensions
AVX             -       Supports AVX intruction extensions
FMA             -       Supports FMA extensions using YMM state
MSR             *       Implements RDMSR/WRMSR instructions
MTTR            *       Supports Memory Type Range Registers
XSAVE           -       Supports XSAVE/XRSTOR instructions
OSXSAVE         -       Supports XSETBV/XGETBV instructions

CMOV            *       Supports CMOVcc instruction
CLFSH           *       Supports CLFLUSH instruction
CX8             *       Supports compare and exchange 8-byte instructions
CX16            *       Supports CMPXCHG16B instruction
DCA             -       Supports prefetch from memory-mapped device
F16C            -       Supports half-precision instruction
FXSR            *       Supports FXSAVE/FXSTOR instructions
FFXSR           -       Supports optimized FXSAVE/FSRSTOR instruction
MONITOR         *       Supports MONITOR and MWAIT instructions
MOVBE           -       Supports MOVBE instruction
PCLULDQ         -       Supports PCLMULDQ instruction
POPCNT          *       Supports POPCNT instruction
SEP             *       Supports fast system call instructions

DE              *       Supports I/O breakpoints including CR4.DE
DTES64          *       Can write history of 64-bit branch addresses
DS              *       Implements memory-resident debug buffer
DS-CPL          *       Supports Debug Store feature with CPL
PCID            -       Supports PCIDs and settable CR4.PCIDE
PDCM            *       Supports Performance Capabilities MSR
RDTSCP          *       Supports RDTSCP instruction
TSC             *       Supports RDTSC instruction
TSC-DEADLINE    -       Local APIC supports one-shot deadline timer
xTPR            *       Supports disabling task priority messages

ACPI            *       Implements MSR for power management
TM              *       Implements thermal monitor circuitry
TM2             *       Implements Thermal Monitor 2 control
APIC            *       Implements software-accessible local APIC
x2APIC          -       Supports x2APIC

CNXT-ID         -       L1 data cache mode adaptive or BIOS

MCE             *       Supports Machine Check, INT18 and CR4.MCE
MCA             *       Implements Machine Check Architecture
PBE             *       Supports use of FERR#/PBE# pin

PSN             -       Implements 96-bit processor serial number

Logical to Physical Processor Map:
*---  Physical Processor 0
-*--  Physical Processor 1
--*-  Physical Processor 2
---*  Physical Processor 3

Logical Processor to Socket Map:
****  Socket 0

Logical Processor to NUMA Node Map:
****  NUMA Node 0

Logical Processor to Cache Map:
*---  Data Cache          0, Level 1,   32 KB, Assoc   8, LineSize  64
*---  Instruction Cache   0, Level 1,   32 KB, Assoc   4, LineSize  64
*---  Unified Cache       0, Level 2,  256 KB, Assoc   8, LineSize  64
****  Unified Cache       1, Level 3,    8 MB, Assoc  16, LineSize  64
-*--  Data Cache          1, Level 1,   32 KB, Assoc   8, LineSize  64
-*--  Instruction Cache   1, Level 1,   32 KB, Assoc   4, LineSize  64
-*--  Unified Cache       2, Level 2,  256 KB, Assoc   8, LineSize  64
--*-  Data Cache          2, Level 1,   32 KB, Assoc   8, LineSize  64
--*-  Instruction Cache   2, Level 1,   32 KB, Assoc   4, LineSize  64
--*-  Unified Cache       3, Level 2,  256 KB, Assoc   8, LineSize  64
---*  Data Cache          3, Level 1,   32 KB, Assoc   8, LineSize  64
---*  Instruction Cache   3, Level 1,   32 KB, Assoc   4, LineSize  64
---*  Unified Cache       4, Level 2,  256 KB, Assoc   8, LineSize  64

Logical Processor to Group Map:
****  Group 0

****************************************************************************************

 

 

 

Thank you, TheGuy

[Joe_Miner]

What motherboard/SystemBoard are you using?

 

I'm running Hyper-V on Win8Pro NOW on my X58A-UD3R and was running it for awhile on my Z77X-UD5H with no issue (currently running S2012 on the Z77).  All the MicroServers can run Hyper-V on Win8pro.

 

The only issue I've run into is trying to run Win8 Hyper-V on the GA-Z68MX-UD2H-B3.  VinylFreak and TimeKills were having similar problems with their Z68's -- I think TimeKills got around it by disabling the on-Board USB3.0 -- I haven't tried that yet.

[TheGuy]

What motherboard/SystemBoard are you using?

 

I'm running Hyper-V on Win8Pro NOW on my X58A-UD3R and was running it for awhile on my Z77X-UD5H with no issue (currently running S2012 on the Z77).  All the MicroServers can run Hyper-V on Win8pro.

 

The only issue I've run into is trying to run Win8 Hyper-V on the GA-Z68MX-UD2H-B3.  VinylFreak and TimeKills were having similar problems with their Z68's -- I think TimeKills got around it by disabling the on-Board USB3.0 -- I haven't tried that yet.

 

Asus P7H55D-M EVO with i5 760 CPU and 16GB of RAM

[TheGuy]

Everyone,

 

Following additional searches and Asus support, it would seem that this Motherboard does not support Windows-8 and therefore will not allow Hyper-V.  The BIOS is the latest and the utilities all say it should work, but it simply does not get off the ground.  So I guess I'll have to wait a few months and invest in a new LGA 1150 Motherboard (Haswell)... and hope that the new environment will allow me to get this project working...  in the mean time I'll have to figure out what I can do with this old LGA 1156 board and its i5 760 processor... it could be a powerful router... I guess.

 

Thank you for the help.

 

TheGuy

[ikon]

It would be a very powerful router. What about using it as an HTPC?

[pcdoc]

Hyper-V on windows-8 NOT working :

 

Gentlemen, Ladies, anyone....

 

OK I had to try to install Client Hyper-V on a Windows-8 Box that I had doing nothing... (test machine)  and unfortunately after trying a lot of stuff I was unable to get Client Hyper-V working on this motherboard.  Has anyone out there , experienced the same issue and got it resolve?  I have simply tried everything and cannot get around this WALL.  I know it's older hardware, but it should work...maybe;... perhaps...I hope.

 

Any input, comments solutions would be greatly welcomed... (else it means I will be buying something new ...)  here is the problem experienced and data collected:

 

On enabling Hyper-V in the “Turn Windows Features On or Off” menu, I was prompted to restart to complete the installation. It rebooted, installed some stuff, then rebooted again and again and then provided a "Restore" option.  I I did not select the restore option then at that point, it got as far as the Windows logo and then nothing – no spinner, no HDD light, no feedback – just the black screen and the Windows logo.

PC has EPT (SLAT) and I have all the virtualization enabled in the BIOS.
Hardware supports Second Level Address Translation (SLAT)
64-bit Windows 8 Pro
16 GB of RAM
Intel i5-760 processor reported:
   Number of CPU(s) One Physical Processor / 4 Cores / 4 Logical Processors / 64 bits
   Vendor Genuine Intel
   CPU Full Name Intel® Core™ i5 CPU 760 @ 2.80GHz
   Instructions MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, ET64, XD, VMX, SMX, EST, HT
   L1 Data Cache 4 x 32 KBytes
   L1 Instructions Cache 4 x 32 KBytes
   L2 Cache 4 x 256 KBytes
   L3 Cache 8192 KBytes

 

Intel® Processor Identification Utility
   Enabling VT BIOS
   Intel® Virtualization Technology  YES
   Intel® Hyper-Threading Technology NO
   Intel® 64 Architecture YES
   Intel VT-x with Extended Page Tables

 

Disable USB 3.0 [ since this was reported on some forums as an issue

]
Ran sysinternals "coreinfo -v" and it reported VMX and EPT are present:

 

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.2.9200]
© 2012 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Coreinfo v3.02 - Dump information on system CPU and memory topology
Copyright © 2008-2011 Mark Russinovich
Sysinternals - www.sysinternals.com

Intel® Core™ i5 CPU         760  @ 2.80GHz
Intel64 Family 6 Model 30 Stepping 5, GenuineIntel
HYPERVISOR      -       Hypervisor is present
VMX             *       Supports Intel hardware-assisted virtualization
EPT             *       Supports Intel extended page tables (SLAT)

 

Coreinfo v3.02 - Dump information on system CPU and memory topology
Copyright © 2008-2011 Mark Russinovich
Sysinternals - www.sysinternals.com

Intel® Core™ i5 CPU         760  @ 2.80GHz
Intel64 Family 6 Model 30 Stepping 5, GenuineIntel
HTT             -       Hyperthreading enabled
HYPERVISOR      -       Hypervisor is present
VMX             *       Supports Intel hardware-assisted virtualization
SVM             -       Supports AMD hardware-assisted virtualization
EM64T           *       Supports 64-bit mode

SMX             *       Supports Intel trusted execution
SKINIT          -       Supports AMD SKINIT
EIST            *       Supports Enhanced Intel Speedstep

NX              *       Supports no-execute page protection
PAGE1GB         -       Supports 1GB large pages
PAE             *       Supports > 32-bit physical addresses
PAT             *       Supports Page Attribute Table
PSE             *       Supports 4-MB pages
PSE36           *       Supports > 32-bit address 4-MB pages
PGE             *       Supports global bit in page tables
SS              *       Supports bus snooping for cache operations
VME             *       Supports Virtual-8086 mode

FPU             *       Implements i387 FP instructions
MMX             *       Supports MMX instruction set
MMXEXT          -       Implements AMD MMX extensions
3DNOW           -       Supports 3DNow! instructions
3DNOWEXT        -       Supports 3DNow! extension instructions
SSE             *       Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions
SSE2            *       Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 2
SSE3            *       Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 3
SSSE3           *       Supports Supplemental SIMD Extensions 3
SSE4.1          *       Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 4.1
SSE4.2          *       Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 4.2

AES             -       Supports AES extensions
AVX             -       Supports AVX intruction extensions
FMA             -       Supports FMA extensions using YMM state
MSR             *       Implements RDMSR/WRMSR instructions
MTTR            *       Supports Memory Type Range Registers
XSAVE           -       Supports XSAVE/XRSTOR instructions
OSXSAVE         -       Supports XSETBV/XGETBV instructions

CMOV            *       Supports CMOVcc instruction
CLFSH           *       Supports CLFLUSH instruction
CX8             *       Supports compare and exchange 8-byte instructions
CX16            *       Supports CMPXCHG16B instruction
DCA             -       Supports prefetch from memory-mapped device
F16C            -       Supports half-precision instruction
FXSR            *       Supports FXSAVE/FXSTOR instructions
FFXSR           -       Supports optimized FXSAVE/FSRSTOR instruction
MONITOR         *       Supports MONITOR and MWAIT instructions
MOVBE           -       Supports MOVBE instruction
PCLULDQ         -       Supports PCLMULDQ instruction
POPCNT          *       Supports POPCNT instruction
SEP             *       Supports fast system call instructions

DE              *       Supports I/O breakpoints including CR4.DE
DTES64          *       Can write history of 64-bit branch addresses
DS              *       Implements memory-resident debug buffer
DS-CPL          *       Supports Debug Store feature with CPL
PCID            -       Supports PCIDs and settable CR4.PCIDE
PDCM            *       Supports Performance Capabilities MSR
RDTSCP          *       Supports RDTSCP instruction
TSC             *       Supports RDTSC instruction
TSC-DEADLINE    -       Local APIC supports one-shot deadline timer
xTPR            *       Supports disabling task priority messages

ACPI            *       Implements MSR for power management
TM              *       Implements thermal monitor circuitry
TM2             *       Implements Thermal Monitor 2 control
APIC            *       Implements software-accessible local APIC
x2APIC          -       Supports x2APIC

CNXT-ID         -       L1 data cache mode adaptive or BIOS

MCE             *       Supports Machine Check, INT18 and CR4.MCE
MCA             *       Implements Machine Check Architecture
PBE             *       Supports use of FERR#/PBE# pin

PSN             -       Implements 96-bit processor serial number

Logical to Physical Processor Map:
*---  Physical Processor 0
-*--  Physical Processor 1
--*-  Physical Processor 2
---*  Physical Processor 3

Logical Processor to Socket Map:
****  Socket 0

Logical Processor to NUMA Node Map:
****  NUMA Node 0

Logical Processor to Cache Map:
*---  Data Cache          0, Level 1,   32 KB, Assoc   8, LineSize  64
*---  Instruction Cache   0, Level 1,   32 KB, Assoc   4, LineSize  64
*---  Unified Cache       0, Level 2,  256 KB, Assoc   8, LineSize  64
****  Unified Cache       1, Level 3,    8 MB, Assoc  16, LineSize  64
-*--  Data Cache          1, Level 1,   32 KB, Assoc   8, LineSize  64
-*--  Instruction Cache   1, Level 1,   32 KB, Assoc   4, LineSize  64
-*--  Unified Cache       2, Level 2,  256 KB, Assoc   8, LineSize  64
--*-  Data Cache          2, Level 1,   32 KB, Assoc   8, LineSize  64
--*-  Instruction Cache   2, Level 1,   32 KB, Assoc   4, LineSize  64
--*-  Unified Cache       3, Level 2,  256 KB, Assoc   8, LineSize  64
---*  Data Cache          3, Level 1,   32 KB, Assoc   8, LineSize  64
---*  Instruction Cache   3, Level 1,   32 KB, Assoc   4, LineSize  64
---*  Unified Cache       4, Level 2,  256 KB, Assoc   8, LineSize  64

Logical Processor to Group Map:
****  Group 0

****************************************************************************************

 

 

 

Thank you, TheGuy

 

 

I have had the same problems running Hyper V from widnows 8. I have tried it on several boards.  Some work when you disable the the USB 3 controller (Not sure I get the connection) while others do not work at all. The same systems will all work fine using  Hyper V off of server 2008/2012. You are not alone in this frustration.  I believe it is anohter incomplete Windows 8 "thing".  To see which camp you are in turn off USB and see if it works.

[ikon]

LOL, "But they have the same core!"....... errrrr, maybe not so much

[pcdoc]

Yep, but the base OS is completely different so the sharing is not there.

[ikon]

Sorry, forgot to insert the "/sarcasm"

[TheGuy]

I tried the USB-3 disable option, it did not make a difference.  Still won't work...  but it was worth a try.

 

Thank's for the feedback.  It will give me a reason to get a new motherboard...LGA 1150 format here I come....if you ever get released.

 

As for the HTPC, this is a micro-ATX board; I prefer the smaller size ITX-boards for my HTPC's.  Wife acceptance factor comes into play, it has to look good first...

[G. WadeTech]

Regarding the CPU now showing correctly in Task Manager after enabling Hyper-V role in Windows 8:

http://www.hanselman...singHyperV.aspx

 

Any one read this or notice after enabling the Hyper-V role on their Windows 8 box?  I hope MS does some better integration with the next Windows 8 update later this year.  I have been seeing more people move to using VMware products and ditching Hyper-V because of things like this.

[JayBee]

I've been using hyper v on windows 8 since it became available with mixed success, mostly very happy with it. I only use it for developing custom windows installations for clients however. I haven't tried using it to create a virtual server as of yet. My favorite thing about image creation using hyper v is you can create your custom image, sysprep it then mount the .vhd to windows 8 and run imagex across it to create the .wim file. Very handy when compared to doing it the old fashioned way of booting to a windows pre-installation environment.

 

[Drashna (WGS)]

I just use WDS to create a capture image, and boot that to capture it... to the server.

 

But yes, HyperV is very nice for "at home testing"

[JayBee]

I've had really hit and miss experience with capturing directly to the wds server so I've been capturing my .wim's then uploading them. For me the issue seems to be trying to capture a .wim through a 10/100 switch though....

[Drashna (WGS)]

Ouch... yeah. I can definitely see that.  But I try to make sure everything uses gigabit at minimum.

 

Personally though, I prefer using HyperV to create VMs, and then capture to WDS, which is running on the same server.

[JayBee]

Yeah directly on a wds server is the ideal scenario however I work across a handful of sites so I generally like to do image creation locally on my laptop. The only downside is the time wasted uploading a .wim to a wds server. Before windows 8 there where times where i'd have to remote into an offsite server to tweak an image for deployment. I think i'll begin to refer to them as the dark ages. Lol.