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#1 Joe_Miner

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 08:51 AM

It's suppose to be here somewhere -- where do you drill down to Hyper-V in Windows 8?
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:42 AM

K, silly question, but did you hit the WinKey and type 'Hyper' to search for it ?

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:43 AM

Go to the control panel, go to add and remove windows features, and click on Hyper V.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 11:08 AM

Just an update. I just looked at it and it is "Identical" to the one in Server 8. Having Hyper V in a desktop will be a game changer. No need for all the other packages. Just keep some fast storage around and forget about Storage Spaces for VM's

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 11:47 AM

Go to the control panel, go to add and remove windows features, and click on Hyper V.


Thanks -- I knew it was here somewhere because NC had talked about it a few days ago.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 11:48 AM

Game changer indeed if you can mount those vhd's from across the LAN.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 11:49 AM

Just an update. I just looked at it and it is "Identical" to the one in Server 8. Having Hyper V in a desktop will be a game changer. No need for all the other packages. Just keep some fast storage around and forget about Storage Spaces for VM's


Can't wait to test this out!! I think you nailed it -- definitely a game changer.
WHS-V1: HP EX-487: 4*WD20EARX, Athena AP-MFATX30, 4GB G.Skill, E5200, Stablebit Scanner-|-
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 11:51 AM

It would put a strain on VMWare workstation sales, to be sure.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 06:54 PM

Game changer indeed if you can mount those vhd's from across the LAN.


Set up as iSCSI and it will for sure.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:05 PM

Go to the control panel, go to add and remove windows features, and click on Hyper V.


Just an update -- that did the trick & while I was there I checked NET 3.5 so I could install the connector for WHS 2011.
WHS-V1: HP EX-487: 4*WD20EARX, Athena AP-MFATX30, 4GB G.Skill, E5200, Stablebit Scanner-|-
WHS-2011: HP N54L G7, Kingston ECC 8GB KVR1333D3E9SK2/8G, OS: 256GB M4, 5*ST3000DM001, WD PCIe USB3, R640L, Stablebit DrivePool & Scanner -|-
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 01:51 AM

Just an update -- that did the trick & while I was there I checked NET 3.5 so I could install the connector for WHS 2011.


Cool, glad it worked out. Did not try the connector software yet.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 12:58 PM

Has anyone tried Hyper-V in the consumer preview? I did today, it seems to install fine and lets me create a VM. I can even connect to it. But when I start the VM, I get an error that the .application encountered an error while trying to change the state of the VM, could not initialize remoting system, error "Element not found. And also "usable certificate not found." Couldn't find much about it in support topics, although it seems others have experienced it. I'm suspicious that something I've installed has screwed something up, although no idea what, although Office 2010 and the WHS2011 connector (requiring dotnet 3.5 are my prime suspects. Thinking I will blow it away and see if it changes.
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 02:41 PM

Just an update -- that did the trick & while I was there I checked NET 3.5 so I could install the connector for WHS 2011.


Just curious; what options did you find under Turn Windows features on or off? I only see Hyper-V Management Tools. I figure that's because my Win8 is running on a Celeron-M CPU, so it doesn't support Hyper-V directly.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 04:06 PM

Just curious; what options did you find under Turn Windows features on or off? I only see Hyper-V Management Tools. I figure that's because my Win8 is running on a Celeron-M CPU, so it doesn't support Hyper-V directly.


On my 2-3 year old Dell i5 laptop with the 64bit preview installed, it shows both Hyper V Management Tools and Hyper V Platform with checkboxes in the Turn Windows Features on and off box.
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 04:15 PM

Thanks. That's pretty much what I expected - since mine can't support HV it's not even listed.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 04:16 PM

Just curious; what options did you find under Turn Windows features on or off? I only see Hyper-V Management Tools. I figure that's because my Win8 is running on a Celeron-M CPU, so it doesn't support Hyper-V directly.


Here's what I saw under Hyper-V. I could check everything except the Hyper-V Platform which is grayed out -- the message I got when I hover over the grayed box is that It already detects a Hyper-Visor running. Imagine that! Guess I have to wait till I do a bare metal install.

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WHS-V1: HP EX-487: 4*WD20EARX, Athena AP-MFATX30, 4GB G.Skill, E5200, Stablebit Scanner-|-
WHS-2011: HP N54L G7, Kingston ECC 8GB KVR1333D3E9SK2/8G, OS: 256GB M4, 5*ST3000DM001, WD PCIe USB3, R640L, Stablebit DrivePool & Scanner -|-
Test Labs: HP N40L, G.Skill 16GB F3-1333C9D-16GAO, rr2720 -|- HP N40L, Kingston ECC 16GB KVR1333D3E9SK2/16G -|-
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 04:19 PM

Is virtualization enabled in the BIOS?
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 05:24 PM

Is virtualization enabled in the BIOS?


Not sure if you're asking me, but I can't imagine a Celeron-M can support virtualization. Am I wrong?

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 05:32 PM

I do not think virtualization is supported on the older Celerons. I have tried on Win 8 and well, it is a bit buggy. Although it appears to run fine and lets me create VM's just fine, it knocks some of the basic network functions on my system. After installing the Hyper V support, apps can no longer access the internet and various other oddities. For example the kindle app stopped working, and so did flixter. Definitively a work in progress.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 06:05 PM

Has anyone tried Hyper-V in the consumer preview? I did today, it seems to install fine and lets me create a VM. I can even connect to it. But when I start the VM, I get an error that the .application encountered an error while trying to change the state of the VM, could not initialize remoting system, error "Element not found. And also "usable certificate not found." Couldn't find much about it in support topics, although it seems others have experienced it. I'm suspicious that something I've installed has screwed something up, although no idea what, although Office 2010 and the WHS2011 connector (requiring dotnet 3.5 are my prime suspects. Thinking I will blow it away and see if it changes.


A short report on getting Hyper V running. I used the Refresh Option where it saves files and settings. It wound up taking about a half hour til I got back to the Start Screen. I think it probably would have been quicker to use the full reset or whatever it called since then it wouldn't have to work around what was there. One sign that there was a problem was that when I tried the refresh, it asked for th install disk as there were some missing files. I suppose they were replaced by something. I also tried the other restart option and it asked for the same thing.

When it finally got back to the Start Screen, I went to the control panel and turned on Hyper V. Installed with a couple of restarts but then worked fine. Created a new VM without a problem. Had it install Win7 x86 ultimate from an iso while it was created and it was fairly fast.

Now I just have to figure out Virtual Switches. When I tried creating one before the Refresh, the virtual switch kept Win8 from accessing the wireless network. I guess I'm a little spoiled by the simplicity of Virtualbox, but I keep having problems with it clogging up if I use a browser in it. The CPU usage always shoots up to 100% at some point with either IE or FF.

I did find a nice thing about the Refresh; when I fired up IE on the desktop, it still had all the favorites and history (although for some reason this site didn't show up in history). Additionally, when I just logged in to respond, IE remembered my password from before the Refresh. Pretty neat. Same for Outlook Web App in Office 365 that I'm trying. Remembered who I was with no need to log in. Some of the start screen apps were missing and so was Office as it said would happen; no big deal.

Other than that the Hyper V problem, I did have a repeat of what happened on initial install which I suppose I should have expected it if was rolling back. Win8 installed a generic Broadcom driver for the Dell 1520 Wireless minicard in my laptop. Performance was truly awful. The Speakeasy speed test showed about 1.5megs down and 3 megs up. In Win7 I get 12-18 megs down. Device Mangler kept telling me there was no newer driver. I tried installing my Win7 Dell driver but it wouldn't let setup.exe run. After lots of frustration, I tried the old way, by telling it I had a disk and pointing it to the .inf file. That worked, though the top speed is still only about half what I get in Win7. At least it's usable. Had to repeat that process after the Refresh.

I suppose the next step will be to reinstall dotnet 3.5 and the WHS connector and see if that matters. The order of installation may make a diff.

Will report back.
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