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#1 kbrucej

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 01:17 AM

http://www.amazon.co...30585666&sr=8-7

Can't find technical specs to see if it's the same layout as the bundled SDRAM.

Would be awesome if it works....

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 01:48 AM

This KVR1333D3E9SK2/16G is the same specs as the recommended RAM - KVR1333D3E9SK2/8G but is 2x8 rather than 2x4. (same kingston RAM spec)

Would be awesome if it works....I wonder if the BIOS fix allows for more RAM?

http://www.kingston....D3E9SK2_16G.pdf

http://www.kingston....3D3E9SK2_8G.pdf

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 06:01 AM

The specs call for a MAX of 8 gigs. The board may accept it but the BIOS will probably not see it. IMO, the risk is not worth it.
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Posted 01 March 2012 - 11:19 AM

Isn't the server OS limited to 8 GB itself?

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 12:21 PM

I've ordered the server (2 actually) to setup an ESXi home lab for VCP 5 study. Was hoping there might be a way around the 8 GB limit in the BIOS. If I had a Mac, I'd order it to test and then drop it in the Mac :) but I'm a solid Win7/2008R2 kinda guy. Like my $ more than my style.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 12:47 PM

By no means is the Server OS (R2) limited to 8 gigs unless you are running Foundation, then yes. Standard can hold up to 32 gigs which mine has and Enterprise up to 2TB or RAM. R2 is x64 only
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 08:40 AM

By no means is the Server OS (R2) limited to 8 gigs unless you are running Foundation, then yes. Standard can hold up to 32 gigs which mine has and Enterprise up to 2TB or RAM. R2 is x64 only


I was thinking specifically of WHS. It doesn't have an 8GB limit either?

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 09:04 AM

I think WHS is 32 just like Server 2008R2. The most I have ever run is 8 as anything above that was a waste. I can tell you that I pull as many as four simultaneous downloads from one of the WHS boxes I have in order to seed files to a new one.
Now in that case, it would help to have some more RAM if I were going to be doing this for more than the month I think this project will take,
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 09:24 AM

WHS 2011 maxes out aty 8GB and 1 Physical CPU.

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 09:34 AM

WHS 2011 maxes out aty 8GB and 1 Physical CPU.


K, thanks. Was wondering if my Alzheimers was kicking in..... again ;)

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 10:05 AM

This KVR1333D3E9SK2/16G is the same specs as the recommended RAM - KVR1333D3E9SK2/8G but is 2x8 rather than 2x4. (same kingston RAM spec)

Would be awesome if it works....I wonder if the BIOS fix allows for more RAM?

http://www.kingston....D3E9SK2_16G.pdf

http://www.kingston....3D3E9SK2_8G.pdf


You may want to check out the N40L user's groups in Great Britian and Australia -- they seem to have some very active user groups and many people active in ESXi home labs. If it's possible someone there would have tried it.

HP's literature states that 8GB is the limit and from a marketing/product placement standpoint I could see them limiting it to 8GB so that as a small business grew and needed more capacity they would buy up HP's server product line.

But then HP's literature also states that 8TB is the storage limit and we know that isn't so -- right now I have 2 3TB and 2 2TB drives plus a 128GB SSD in my MicroServer and I still have a slot open.

So...... It's possible that 16GB of RAM is possible but you'd be sailing into uncharted territory unless you can find someone in the above mentioned user groups who have tried it.

I would appreciate you letting us know what you find out one way or the other.

Good Luck -- sounds like you're going to have a lot of fun experimenting!

WHS 2011 maxes out aty 8GB and 1 Physical CPU.


Yeh, that makes sense since I believe WHS 2011 is based on the Server 2008 R2 Foundation build (which is also 1 CPU and 8GB RAM) though I believe Foundation can have 15 clients whereas WHS 2011 is limited to 10. But then Foundation for ProLiant is over $200 whereas 2011 is about $50 i think.

Edited by Joe_Miner, 02 March 2012 - 10:07 AM.

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 10:05 AM

So...... It's possible that 16GB of RAM is possible but you'd be sailing into uncharted territory unless you can find someone in the above mentioned user groups who have tired.


Better name that server 'Columbus' :)

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 10:08 AM

Better name that server 'Columbus' :)


I've named mine "Destiny" -- obviously I watch wayyyyyyy to much SciFi :)
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 10:14 AM

I can't find anything in the chipset literature that limits it to 8GB - not sure I'm ready for a $300 gamble, but I'm considering it...tax refund can't get awefully smelly if left in your bank too long :blink: - trying to see if I have another way to use the RAM just in case. hmmm maybe I need a new system, wonder what my wife would say...maybe the couch isn't so lumpy after all, and the dogs still love me...

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 10:23 AM

Guess it depends partly on what OS you want to run.

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 10:27 AM

I can't find anything in the chipset literature that limits it to 8GB - not sure I'm ready for a $300 gamble, but I'm considering it...tax refund can't get awefully smelly if left in your bank too long :blink: - trying to see if I have another way to use the RAM just in case. hmmm maybe I need a new system, wonder what my wife would say...maybe the couch isn't so lumpy after all, and the dogs still love me...


At the very least I would write the RAM Manufacture -- for $300 I would want some assurance from someone I had some trust in that it would work before I placed an order.

The couch can be a very lonely place :)
WHS-V1: HP EX-487: 4*WD20EARX, Athena AP-MFATX30, 4GB G.Skill, E5200, Stablebit Scanner-|-
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 10:31 AM

The couch can be a very lonely place :)


Sometimes the dogs are better company -_-

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 11:23 AM

I might try non-ecc (i know that works from other forum posts). it's only $104 from newegg for a cheap 2x8 dual channel kit. it that works then I'd grab the ECC equivelant for the second server. if it doesn't, i can always use it in a hyper-v install on desktop hardware.
I wanted to play with the P2V using a hyper-v guest to vmware anyway...wow, I'm really talking myself into this, better be careful.

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 02:31 AM

I just upgraded my RAM with a 2x4 GB kit. That process was seamless.

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 08:09 AM

I just upgraded my RAM with a 2x4 GB kit. That process was seamless.


Congratulations! Did you have any trouble with the SAS cable connector on the MB?
WHS-V1: HP EX-487: 4*WD20EARX, Athena AP-MFATX30, 4GB G.Skill, E5200, Stablebit Scanner-|-
WHS-2011: HP N54L G7, Kingston ECC 8GB KVR1333D3E9SK2/8G, OS: 256GB M4, 5*ST3000DM001, WD PCIe USB3, R640L, Stablebit DrivePool & Scanner -|-
Test Labs: HP N40L, G.Skill 16GB F3-1333C9D-16GAO, rr2720 -|- HP N40L, Kingston ECC 16GB KVR1333D3E9SK2/16G -|-
S2012 Hyper-V Lab: Lian-Li K9WX, GA-Z77X-UD5H, i7-3770, 32GB G.Skill, 240GB Corsair GT + various HDD's-|-
Desktop W8P64: HAF 932,GA-X58A-UD3R,i7-930,12GB,240GB Corsair GS + various HDD's,HD5850,Samsung Series9 & 213T+Planar PX2710MW,C920 -|-
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