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[Hardened]

Hello, I would like to gether some oppinions on Intel Innovation series desktop motherboards:
http://www.intel.com...ion-series.html

They all share well known NM10 chipset and renewed Cedar Trail Atoms - D2500, D2700 and N2800 with enhanced embedded GPU. Especially I'm looking forward to some perormance comparisons with AMD E350/E450.

Foxconne already announced some new nettops based on these silicon, namely nT-i1200/i1500 and nT-A3550/A3700.
http://www.foxconnch...duct/Barebones/

How do you think if it would be a decent setup to mix those with one of NAS boxes and TV? Are they powerfull enought to run WHS 2011 and HTPC workloads. Found out in the net that Atoms don't support DX10, only DX9. Is that a huge drawback?

Edited by Hardened, 02 February 2012 - 02:38 PM.

[ikon]

Personally, I've given up on Atom CPUs. I've had 3 and I found they all constrained my use after a while.

[pcdoc]

If you are buying for HTPC I would not buy an Atom. For a server it is OK as long as you do not install any apps on it.

[yodafett]

I would agree spend the 100-150 for an i3-2100 or 2100t and be much more satisfied. I use a atom as an htpc in a bedroom and it seems if it host the file it is fine but if playing over the gb network stutters on playback.

[Hardened]

I would agree spend the 100-150 for an i3-2100 or 2100t and be much more satisfied. I use a atom as an htpc in a bedroom and it seems if it host the file it is fine but if playing over the gb network stutters on playback.

You should be in the range of 300 for a whole set of i3, 1155 socket mobo and processor fan. D2700DC recommended price is 78 - it is mobo with embeded Atom D2700 and passive cooling.

From performance point of view - there is some increase in GHz of cause, but more importantly:

• new version supports DDR3 1066, there as D525 can handle DDR3 800 and D425 can only DDR2 800
• GMA 3650 fully supports AVC/H.264 hardware decoding and Blu Ray 2.0 playback, which is major enchancment compared to 3150.

So I belive new generation should not be judged directly from previous experience only...

Edited by Hardened, 03 February 2012 - 04:37 PM.

[yodafett]

I don't believe I do. I have 4 atoms currently. All d525. Want to get a d2700 as soon as gigabyte makes the board. Pfsense great. Open filer great. Commodore vision great (only ion board). Home server was ok until tried sharepoint. The playing of videos is my only complaint. I love it for being cheap quiet and great for small dedicated projects. Have even used it as a nvr with 10tb storage recording 8 2mp cameras without issue.

[Joe_Miner]

Hello, I would like to gether some oppinions on Intel Innovation series desktop motherboards:
http://www.intel.com...ion-series.html

They all share well known NM10 chipset and renewed Cedar Trail Atoms - D2500, D2700 and N2800 with enhanced embedded GPU. Especially I'm looking forward to some perormance comparisons with AMD E350/E450.

Foxconne already announced some new nettops based on these silicon, namely nT-i1200/i1500 and nT-A3550/A3700.
http://www.foxconnch...duct/Barebones/

How do you think if it would be a decent setup to mix those with one of NAS boxes and TV? Are they powerfull enought to run WHS 2011 and HTPC workloads. Found out in the net that Atoms don't support DX10, only DX9. Is that a huge drawback?

It all depends on how you would use the HTPC or WHS 2011 build. For a basic build they an Atom will get it done -- it's when you start looking to expand what you're requiring the Atom to do (increased workload) that you may be dissapoined in the performance.

Check out these threads:

http://homeserversho...tom-do-the-job/

http://homeserversho...__fromsearch__1

My Atom HTPC is good for basic work of streaming from the internet or from my WHS V1. Trying to do a lot in WMC or video conferencing/recording (as in a HD G+ Hangout) would bring it to it's knees and there's no way I could do a HD video conference -- that's where my other HTPC builds (I did one with an i3 & i5) shine -- running Camptasia to convert a <1 hr HD video conference will peg the cores on my i5-2500K for over a half hour (and my wife will still want to know why it's taking so long).

I would suggest reading thru the above threads and others that you can find on this excellent forum but the most important step is to think about what you expect of your system now and in the future and then plan your HW around your plans.

Just my 2 cents -- let us know what you decide and we would always like to see pictures of your finished build(s)

Edited by Joe_Miner, 04 February 2012 - 10:01 AM.

[ikon]

You should be in the range of 300 for a whole set of i3, 1155 socket mobo and processor fan. D2700DC recommended price is 78 - it is mobo with embeded Atom D2700 and passive cooling.

From performance point of view - there is some increase in GHz of cause, but more importantly:

• new version supports DDR3 1066, there as D525 can handle DDR3 800 and D425 can only DDR2 800
• GMA 3650 fully supports AVC/H.264 hardware decoding and Blu Ray 2.0 playback, which is major enchancment compared to 3150.

So I belive new generation should not be judged directly from previous experience only...

Are these boards available? I can't find any online stores that have them in stock.

[Hardened]

Are these boards available? I can't find any online stores that have them in stock.

Found one at newegg
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813153229
It is manufactured by JetWay. I can't say anything about this producer. Also it is a bit expensive - 129$.

Personally I would be looking for Intel's original boards, particularly D2700DC (part number

BOXD2700DC)

in the range of recommended 78$:
http://www.costcentr...88895/extended/
http://www.compsourc...00DC/Intel_211/

Intel clearly positioned D2700DC board for home theater use "The Intel® Desktop Board D2700DC features a passive thermal solution, which is suitable for a quiet and low-power small form factor home theater system." It is having a good combination of DVI-D and HDMI ports.

[ikon]

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That was kinda my point; I was asking about the Intel boards and couldn't find any. Those 2 suppliers don't have any stock so I guess they're not available.

[ivanvm]

I am too looking for a low power/quiet home server. Found this mobo open box for $89. It has all the bells and whistles I need. If I pair it with an SSD I think it would be a good streaming media server. Thoughts?

Ivan

http://www.newegg.co...82E16813131875R

[ikon]

The price is good, but I'm an Intel guy so......

[jmwills]

Check the forums for a post or maybe it was discussed in a podcast. But forum member, "nocontrol" just switched all of his home systems over from Intel to AMD. It all depends on what you are trying to do. Most people tend to stick in one ecosystem.

[ikon]

Yeah. My AMD experience over the years has been very hit and miss; more miss than hit. Noise, heat, less than stellar performance, it hasn't been terrific. Intel has just been more even over time.

[no-control]

I am too looking for a low power/quiet home server. Found this mobo open box for $89. It has all the bells and whistles I need. If I pair it with an SSD I think it would be a good streaming media server. Thoughts?

Ivan

http://www.newegg.co...82E16813131875R

Thread Necro



Yes that would be fine for a Home server. Just dont plan on doing anything else with it. File serve and client backup only. I would like to point out though you could buy a G530 CPU and H61 mobo for about the same price. Or an H77 board for $20 more and have a much better experience, great flexibility, longer warranty, and higher resale.

Check the forums for a post or maybe it was discussed in a podcast. But forum member, "nocontrol" just switched all of his home systems over from Intel to AMD. It all depends on what you are trying to do. Most people tend to stick in one ecosystem.

The hell? You might be behind on the podcasts or my blog...
I'm all intel again. Please keep up =D

Edited by no-control, 15 January 2013 - 11:51 AM.

[ikon]

The hell? You might be behind on the podcasts or my blog...
I'm all intel again. Please keep up =D

LOL, Do you switch camera brands the way you switch CPUs: Canon, Nikon, Canon again? That could get really expensive, quickly.

[no-control]

what is this camera you speak of?? Do you mean my cell phone?

[ikon]

You don't own a DSLR, of any brand?

[ImTheTypeOfGuy]

Thread Necro



Yes that would be fine for a Home server. Just dont plan on doing anything else with it. File serve and client backup only. I would like to point out though you could buy a G530 CPU and H61 mobo for about the same price. Or an H77 board for $20 more and have a much better experience, great flexibility, longer warranty, and higher resale.



The hell? You might be behind on the podcasts or my blog...
I'm all intel again. Please keep up =D

Wow. This makes me wish I wasn't 13 episodes behind.