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#1 st3lvio

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Posted 16 December 2011 - 03:24 PM

I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction.
I think I may have a corrupt file or user setting on my WHS2011. I have 3 cleints (1 HTPC, 1 Workstation, and 1 laptop) that have the connector SW installed on them. 2 of my 3 clients fail to automatically connect (user/password) at start-ups. I get this every time after a start-up and when I then try to access a share from my server:

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Not a huge deal, but really an inconvenience & a big PITA. I'll enter the client's user name and p/w and I do check the box "Remember my credentials". But the server still requests this at every re-boot. Once I enter in my credentials I have no issues accessing the server shares. Also, both users are administrators for that PC. The one system that "Remembers my credentials" is my wife's laptop (on wireless) that never accesses shares other than the normal automatic twice a day backups to the server.

I posted over at WGS http://forum.wegotse...e-and-password/ (post 5) but couldn't get it to work.

Also, I recently did a complete fresh install (new OS on a new SSD) for my Workstation and after installing the connect S/W it still asks from my credentials at every re-start. I'm using a different PC name and User Name/PW as well, so it seems the server is where the issue is - not the PC's that don't connect automatically. These are all admin accounts/users so not sure what gives. Also, I do not have homegroup setup on the server. I did initially for about a day when I first installed WHS2011 (May 2011), but pulled the server out of the homegroup, as I didn't feel it was really that secure for my household to be able to access all shares.

Any direction would be welcome.

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#2 jmwills

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Posted 16 December 2011 - 06:03 PM

Are the Server and Clients in the same Workgroup? Also make sure the user account name in the WHS Dashboard matches the user Account on the client. By default, WHS will only pickup the first name of the user Account added in the Dashboard.

User name Joe Smith will create an Account name of Joe. The only way to change this is to delete and recreate the account.
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Posted 17 December 2011 - 08:38 AM

Are the Server and Clients in the same Workgroup? Also make sure the user account name in the WHS Dashboard matches the user Account on the client. By default, WHS will only pickup the first name of the user Account added in the Dashboard.

User name Joe Smith will create an Account name of Joe. The only way to change this is to delete and recreate the account.


1) Yes - same workgroup name (WORKGROUP)
2) Yes - same user account names in match (mine are only one word)

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 08:53 AM

Make sure you don't have a local username on your PC that is the same as the one you are logging into the dashboard with, if you do apparently it tries to authenticate to the server as the local user first..

I think it would work if your local user had the same password as the WHS user, not sure.. I learned 1st hand this can be a problem a few days ago..

I just deleted my WHS users and setup access as guest, and all was well

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 09:16 AM

Make sure you don't have a local username on your PC that is the same as the one you are logging into the dashboard with, if you do apparently it tries to authenticate to the server as the local user first..

I think it would work if your local user had the same password as the WHS user, not sure.. I learned 1st hand this can be a problem a few days ago..

I just deleted my WHS users and setup access as guest, and all was well


No, my server name is different than any of my users.

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 09:19 AM

Not the server name, but the users.. for example:

I log in to my Win7 machine as Joe, with no password,

I log in to the WHS launchpad with Joe, with password 123456,

The login will fail because your computer will try to connect to the shares as Joe, no password.. regardless of the fact you are logged in to the launchpad

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 09:31 AM

Just double check the Users Account Settings and verify the password policy.
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Posted 17 December 2011 - 09:34 AM

Not the server name, but the users.. for example:

I log in to my Win7 machine as Joe, with no password,

I log in to the WHS launchpad with Joe, with password 123456,

The login will fail because your computer will try to connect to the shares as Joe, no password.. regardless of the fact you are logged in to the launchpad


I login to the dashboard with the server's user/password from the client PC

I connect to the server from the client with the client's user name & clients p/w

It just asks for user/pw everytime.

Just double check the Users Account Settings and verify the password policy.


I have it is set to medium (and my passwords fit into this) at least 5 characters

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 09:38 AM

Set it at the lowest....this is an authentication error. The account(s) on the client and the one you created on the server are different. I set up a Virtual 2011 box last night and got the same error until I noticed the Display Name and user name were different on the server.

By default the last name is not picked up. So if you use first name and last name, verify on the server that both values were generated for the user name.....not the display name whihc is nothing but an alias.
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Posted 17 December 2011 - 09:46 AM

The user and display names (for each client) are the same in the dashboard.
All usernames have first name only.
I reset the p/w policy to weakest. Reboot the client.

Still asks for Network Password to access my shares.
I enter the client user & p/w and I'm in.

Still same problem.

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 09:51 AM

Is the local user on your PC the same as your NW user? and if so do they have the same password?

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 10:09 AM

Is the local user on your PC the same as your NW user? and if so do they have the same password?


Yes, Yes

#13 st3lvio

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 10:17 AM

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It seems there is something very basic that is corrupted/broken for this not to be working correctly.

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 12:01 PM

Either one of those Add-Ins is causing the block or the profile is corrupt is my best guess. I would delete the account and re-create it.
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Posted 17 December 2011 - 12:27 PM

Either one of those Add-Ins is causing the block or the profile is corrupt is my best guess. I would delete the account and re-create it.


Well 2 of my 3 accounts would need to be deleted if that's the case.
Also, as I mentioned in my 1st post - same issue when I created a new user 3 months ago.

I may try it again.
I was hoping someone had a suggestion of how to handle this within the server's manager console.
There's a lot of settings under Configuration -> Local Users and Groups -> that may need to be adjusted.
I'm just not ready to go messing with it without knowing what may happen.

WHS2011 = Vista

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 10:11 AM

I'm just not ready to go messing with it without knowing what may happen.


Make dummy accounts and mess with them until you find out what's going on, then make the appropriate adjustments to the production accounts. I tend to make a new test account for each change I make, just to ensure the changes aren't interacting, at least until I determine that multiple changes are required.

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 10:28 AM

Ok, that sounds like a good idea.

Don't have anything to loss at this point.

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