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    #1 timekills

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    Posted 25 November 2011 - 12:21 AM

    I saw some had tried using RemoteFX on 2008 server core and of course it didn't work as it is not supported. I decided to give it a whirl on an HD3000 graphics (i.e. i5 2500) only enabled board with 468 MB "dedicated" memory using 2008R2 Standard. One of the requirements for RemoteFX - at least for Win 7 clients - is a separate video card and dedicated memory so I didn't have high hopes.

    First let me say that Server 2008R2 did allow me to enable the RemoteFX additional role under Remote Desktop Services. It also let me install the RemoteFX hardware into my Win 7 SP1 VMs. When I attempted to remotely manage one of the VMs from a Hyper-V Manager it gave me a black screen

    “Video Remoting was disconnected. The virtual machine is using the 3D video adaptor, which is not supported by the Virtual Machine Connection console.” As stated by MS, this is expected, and leads me to believe it may be working.



    Here is the rub: I can't RDP into any machine in which I have installed the RemoteFX hardware. I did see that I may need to add the administrator to the Remote Desktop Users security group (odd, as by default they are already supposed to be enabled) which I will try and post back.



    If you are interested, here is the step by step from MS.


    http://technet.micro...604(WS.10).aspx

    By the way, I'm trying this less for the video upgrade as I'm not using any thin clients and more for the potential USB pass through capability.
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    Posted 25 November 2011 - 01:21 AM

    Update:
    Enabling the users didn't help, but I did have to make some firewall changes. The Remote Desktop for RemoteFX is a different firewall setting than the "vanilla" RDP. I ended up disabling the firewall in my Win7SP1 VM to get it to work. Now for some benchmarks to see if using the integrated graphics in the i5 2500K actually makes a difference...

    And it does!

    First without Remote FX:
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    And next with RemoteFX enabled:

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    Now, notice a couple things.
    First the score (upper right corner). The score for the disabled was actually higher - some times a LOT higher. Strange I thought but then I looked at the quality and realized it was only 16bit dithering. Compare the fog between the two. With RemoteFX you get translucent, natural looking fog. Without it you get significant banding. And it is a lot more noticeable at speed.
    Also notice the FPS (bottom middle) - 8 FPS for not enabled and 22 FPS enabled, and that is at double the color depth!
    Something this doesn't show is that I can get sound through the RDP'd virtual OS now as well when using RemoteFX.

    Ultimately I'd have to say RemoteFX with only using integrated Sandy Bridge graphics is a big win.
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    #3 ImTheTypeOfGuy

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    Posted 28 November 2011 - 06:21 AM

    Thanks for posting. I will have to look into this.

    Did you ever figure out what needs to be changed on your firewall so you could turn it back on?
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    Posted 28 November 2011 - 04:06 PM

    very impressive timekills. Until I read your post I hadn't even heard of RemoteFX. Thanks for the info.
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    Posted 28 November 2011 - 05:24 PM

    I saw this but you are the first to try it. Sounds very promising and thanks for sharing the experience.
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    Posted 28 November 2011 - 09:43 PM

    I will have to try it but it will probably take me a couple months before I get to work on it.
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    Posted 29 November 2011 - 01:44 AM

    Thanks for posting. I will have to look into this.

    Did you ever figure out what needs to be changed on your firewall so you could turn it back on?


    Yes. My post was misleading and out of order. I disabled my firewall initially then discovered there was an additional setting for RemoteFX RDP separate in the firewall from "normal" RDP passage for both in and out settings.


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    Posted 07 January 2012 - 09:28 PM

    Very cool, just installed a HIS Radeon HD 6570 onto my 08 R2 Server and setup RemoteFX on a W7 Ultimate VM that I use for Media Center Recordings and for my xbox linking.

    This card has 2GB of ram so i was able to set it at 1920 x 1200 which gave it 330MB of video ram in RemoteFX and i still have 1.5GB for more how cool

    also since i had the case open i installed my Ceton tuner on my MS 08 R2 Server and networked them to the W7 Ult.VM and to another media center , how cool again



    Thanks.....

    About 3/4 of the way down explains how: http://www.missingre...rs-multiple-pcs .

    And to TimeKills: http://homeserversho.../3229-remotefx/

    And to NoControl: for mentioning the idea on BYOB podcast ? your just gonna have to listen to the all , i cant remember the number







    Thanks guys its working great
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    #9 Greg Welch

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    Posted 07 January 2012 - 09:49 PM

    By the way, I'm trying this less for the video upgrade as I'm not using any thin clients and more for the potential USB pass through capability.


    I read that and want to try potential USB pass through capability. next, i wonder if the domain part is trully required, ?
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    Posted 08 January 2012 - 12:59 AM

    Have not had a chance to do this yet but I still think this is a great solution. Now if they could only fix Hyper-V to use USB...
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    #11 Greg Welch

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    Posted 08 January 2012 - 01:28 AM

    Have not had a chance to do this yet but I still think this is a great solution. Now if they could only fix Hyper-V to use USB...


    In this link it looks promising http://technet.micro...581(WS.10).aspx

    In the interem i have just connected a networked usb server to my Host MS 08 server R2 and passed it thru to WHS 2011 VM and am currently using it to connect mControl and Gridjunction

    http://www.amazon.co...P/dp/B0024G48MY
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