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#1 Kman

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Posted 06 November 2011 - 07:09 AM

I'm looking for an easy way to backup my OS Drive and restore back onto my ICY DOCK (MB982SPR-2S).

When I first built my system I used the Icy Dock that then failed. I removed the Icy Dock from the system and just ran one drive direct. This is how I have been running for the last month or so in order to get the Icy Dock RMA'd.

During the time waiting for my RMA Icy dock I had used the 2nd drive that I had in it for other duties.

Now when I got it back I thought I would just be able to put the dirve running my WHS2011 back into it and add my 2nd drive and I would be backup and running.
Well I'm not that lucky seems like it wants me to recreate my Raid1 setup on it. The only way I can see doing this will make me loose all data on the current OS drive.

I'm looking for suggestions of anything better then deleting what I have, creating the raid1 on the icy dock then reloading from CD and once up then restore from backup and hope it sees that existing stuff and restore from bacup?

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Posted 06 November 2011 - 08:34 AM

  • Boot up into your existing single drive installation.
  • Use the Server 2008 built in backup (All Programs/Accessories/System Tools/Windows Server Backup) to back up the OS drive to another drive (so it will create an image of the OS drive). I used an external USB2 drive.
  • Replace the single drive with your IcyDock.
  • Boot up into WHS2011 install.
  • Choose the bottom option that offers to restore from an image.
  • Restore the image to your IcyDock.
  • Boot up from IcyDock.

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Posted 06 November 2011 - 11:39 AM

Ikon's steps worked find for me to when I had the same issue (broken RAID bay). Only thing I would add is some add-ins save data to the system drive so you may want to disable them before the backup so there's no changes while the backup happens.

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Posted 06 November 2011 - 02:05 PM

Ikon's steps worked find for me to when I had the same issue (broken RAID bay). Only thing I would add is some add-ins save data to the system drive so you may want to disable them before the backup so there's no changes while the backup happens.

Good point. I don't currently have any add-ins so it hasn't been an issue, but it's something to remember.

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Posted 06 November 2011 - 03:14 PM

Thanks seem my problems keep coming. Now I try and do a backup like you mention but keep getting "there is not enough disk space to create the volume shadow copy....."

the thing is my c: Drive has less then 30Gb and D has less then 200Gb trying to backup to my USB 1Tb drive?
I see that I was getting this on my regular backup starting from last night.

I would like to make sure I get a full System backup working before I try what you had mentioned

let me know if you have any suggestions

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Posted 06 November 2011 - 04:33 PM

I looked in my event viewer and find the following
The backup operation that started at '‎2011‎-‎11‎-‎06T20:09:11.173000000Z' has failed because the Volume Shadow Copy Service operation to create a shadow copy of the volumes being backed up failed with following error code '2155348249'. Please review the event details for a solution, and then rerun the backup operation once the issue is resolved.


When I look at Shadow Copies
I noticed that Shadow Copies is disabled on my System partition? Is this correct?
I also noticed that System Partition only has 3.79Mb free of 99.9Mb . Is this correct?


Seems I only have this problem when I try to include Baremetel backup in my backup set

Edited by Kman, 06 November 2011 - 04:49 PM.


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Posted 06 November 2011 - 05:50 PM

KMan, found this for Windows 2008 which says the 100MB partition needs 50MB free and has some work arounds and deletion suggestions. I checked mine and it's only using 37MB and shadow copies are off. Can't say I've tried these steps myself.

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Posted 07 November 2011 - 11:02 AM

I looked in my event viewer and find the following
The backup operation that started at '‎2011‎-‎11‎-‎06T20:09:11.173000000Z' has failed because the Volume Shadow Copy Service operation to create a shadow copy of the volumes being backed up failed with following error code '2155348249'. Please review the event details for a solution, and then rerun the backup operation once the issue is resolved.


When I look at Shadow Copies
I noticed that Shadow Copies is disabled on my System partition? Is this correct?
I also noticed that System Partition only has 3.79Mb free of 99.9Mb . Is this correct?


Seems I only have this problem when I try to include Baremetel backup in my backup set

I do recall something about low space in the 100MB partition being a problem. One thing I can suggest is to use CloneZilla to do the backup and restore - it won't care how much space is free in the 100MB partition. However, if you have never used CZ, it can't be a little confusing at first.

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Posted 07 November 2011 - 05:10 PM

Well I think for me now that I found my backups not working it's more of a problem to fix this first.

Seems when I was swapping in and out hard drives and doing diffent things I broke my backup of my OS drive
I was able to get a backup of the data part of the OS drive just not the baremetel backup of it

I guess I could risk that this would be fixed if I did a full install then a restore data from the backup.... not the best

So can you guys just tell me when you look at your 100Mb System partition how much free space does it have.... Seems today when I look i'm now up to 31.8mb but from what I have read I need 32mb
So i'm getting close

I have nothing in the Recycle bin
I have the Boot folder and bootmgr, bootsect.bak thse files all together are only 14mb

So it looks like I have a problem with a folder called "System Volume Information"

this folder is locked and I tried to give myself rights to it but can't or am not doing it correctly.
I can't even get the size of the folder but i'm guessing it's my missing / needed space



I also noticed that the drive seems to have 45mb of unallocated space? do you think it's safe to try and add some of the 45mb of space to the 100mb system partition?

Edited by Kman, 07 November 2011 - 05:11 PM.


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Posted 07 November 2011 - 06:27 PM

If it was me, at this point I would be reaching for my CloneZilla USB stick to make a full clone image of the OS drive. You can still boot the system, right? If so, then CZ could make it so you don't have to reinstall.

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 09:51 AM

I agree with ikon since the partition is still good and viable use something like clonezilla or PartedMagic to copy/clone and fix your partitions.
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Posted 09 November 2011 - 04:50 PM

Thanks I used CloneZilla last night and today i'm restoring it to test that it works then will work on my backup problem then if that all works I will put back the Icy Dock

no need to put it in if I have other problems and a backup of the OS

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 06:31 PM

Glad you got CZ figured out. And really glad you're doing a test restore. Knowing I can restore from a backup always boosts my level of confidence when I'm troubleshooting something. Please keep use updated on your progress.

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 08:06 AM

Well I was able to get my os back on without any probelms. My problem still seems to be with my Icy Dock. I have now done about 5 backup's restore and recovery type things. every one worked without a problem this was with changing drives doing all types of stuff. I will now not be having the Icy Dock in my system I was thinking of maybe doing my raid 1 from my moatherboard but at this time feel I will just keep my extra OS drive as a cold spare.

As long as you have a bacup copy of your System partiion and OS drive it only takes me about 2hrs to restore.
Mind you the first backup of your OS drive after doing a recovery seems to take me about 6-8hrs don't know why but just let it do it's thing and now I have no problems

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 12:16 PM

Is that 2 hours using CZ? That seems a bit long.

I would go with the mobo RAID1. 'Course, I'm biased since that's what I'm doing with my WHS2011.

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 03:16 PM

Well I have my OS partition and a data partition on the same drive the data would have been my most important stuff that was why I had it on a Raid1 configuration. but yes for the do partitions it takes me about 2hrs from start to Finnish give. It’s a 750gb drive with the 60gb for OS and the rest for data but it only has about 200gb of data a current time.
As things are once again stable and it's take me over a week I’m going to let things just run like this for a week or so then look at using the MB Raid1

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 10:26 AM

Well I have my OS partition and a data partition on the same drive the data would have been my most important stuff that was why I had it on a Raid1 configuration. but yes for the do partitions it takes me about 2hrs from start to Finnish give. It’s a 750gb drive with the 60gb for OS and the rest for data but it only has about 200gb of data a current time.
As things are once again stable and it's take me over a week I’m going to let things just run like this for a week or so then look at using the MB Raid1

OK, that makes more sense. I was thinking 2 hours to restore less than 60 GB, but if it's over 200 GB it makes a lot more sense.

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