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[Kman]

I'm looking at picking memory for my new WHS2011. I hope to do lots of streaming, decompressing zips / rars files, and some transcoding. Keep in mind I would like to keep things to a best performance for the price type system. I will also not over clock it at all as it will run 24/7 for the next 5 years.

With so many types it’s hard to know what is important:

First it’s the speed the motherboard states it can take DDR3 2200(O.C.) / 2133(O.C.) / 1866(O.C.) / 1600 / 1333 / 1066…. So should I go for the faster more$$ or cheaper slower?

Should I worry about the timing that it can run with. Most seem to be 9-9-9-24 but you can get some with 7-7-7-24?

Latency?

I was thinking of 8Gb but should I go with 16Gb or build with 2x4Gb room to expand later?

Let me know if have questions to help me know what I should look for when picking memory

[ImTheTypeOfGuy]

I would 16 GB of 1600.

[analog]

I would go with 8 GB (if no VM) of 1600 and not worry about timings.

[jmwills]

IMO, 16 GB is an overkill for WHS and 8 should be plenty. I am basing this on specs for Small Business Server 2011 Standard which has a minimum requirement of 8 gigs due to the Exchange aspect of the install.

[no-control]

Go with 8GB (2x4GB) 1333 is plenty fast enough, but if the price is right 1600 doesn't hurt either. Honestly you could go with 4GB, but since ram is dirt cheap I'll say go 8GB even though you'll most likely never use it.

[ImTheTypeOfGuy]

but since ram is dirt cheap I'll say go 8GB even though you'll most likely never use it.

This is why I suggest 16 GB and 1600. Not to mention it prevents buyers remorse given you maxed it out.

[jmwills]

Dirt must be real cheap

[analog]

1 cubic yard of dirt weighs aprox 2500 lbs and costs $30.00 - $50.00 depending on how much you buy and type (fill/top soil).
2500 lbs x 16 ozs = 40,000 ozs.
$30.00 x 100 c = 3,000 c
$50.00 x 100 c = 5,000 c
3,000 / 40,000 = 0.075 c
5,000 / 40,000 = 0.125 c

Dirt costs between 0.075 and 0.125 cents per ounce; pretty cheap.

Edited by analog, 24 August 2011 - 07:24 AM.

[Joe_Miner]

Farmland is ~$10K+ an acre in Indiana (at least that's what my relatives there say).

[jmwills]

Sorry I asked............

[no-control]

To ensure total thread derailment. Lets get our terms straight here:

Dirt is cheap....Land if F$%Kin expensive!

Edited by no-control, 25 August 2011 - 01:07 AM.

[pcdoc]

I'm looking at picking memory for my new WHS2011. I hope to do lots of streaming, decompressing zips / rars files, and some transcoding. Keep in mind I would like to keep things to a best performance for the price type system. I will also not over clock it at all as it will run 24/7 for the next 5 years.

With so many types it’s hard to know what is important:

First it’s the speed the motherboard states it can take DDR3 2200(O.C.) / 2133(O.C.) / 1866(O.C.) / 1600 / 1333 / 1066…. So should I go for the faster more$$ or cheaper slower?

Should I worry about the timing that it can run with. Most seem to be 9-9-9-24 but you can get some with 7-7-7-24?

Latency?

I was thinking of 8Gb but should I go with 16Gb or build with 2x4Gb room to expand later?

Let me know if have questions to help me know what I should look for when picking memory

Unless I misread, (which happens) WHS 2011 is limited to 8 GIGS so buying 16 will not buy you much. I would go for the 1600 if was me.

[Joe_Miner]

snip....Land if F$%Kin expensive!

That's a technical term I use often

[ImTheTypeOfGuy]

Unless I misread, (which happens) WHS 2011 is limited to 8 GIGS so buying 16 will not buy you much. I would go for the 1600 if was me.

Why would it be limited at 8? That doesn't make much sense.

[no-control]

It is limited to 8gb. FWIW I've only seen maybe 3.5GB usage in WHS2011 and it was being hammered hard. So 4GB for most is plenty!

It makes perfect sense. WHS2011 is based off of the 2008R2 foundation kernal. Which is limited to 8GB RAM. Foundation is for single task O/S inside of a VM. Which also explains why it only accepts a single CPU socket. This allows cheaper cost per server for companies who need additional server o/s's but without the need for full on server. If an SMB only needed was to run File server inside a VM Or even a RRAS, foundation would be a perfect and cheap way of doing that.

Rarely would you ever need to use more than 8GB inside a VM. If you did your using something specialized, IIS, Sharepoint, SQL, exchange, etc...

Edited by no-control, 25 August 2011 - 12:03 PM.

[Joe_Miner]

It is limited to 8gb. FWIW I've only seen maybe 3.5GB usage in WHS2011 and it was being hammered hard. So 4GB for most is plenty!

It makes perfect sense. WHS2011 is based off of the 2008R2 foundation kernal. Which is limited to 8GB RAM. Foundation is for single task O/S inside of a VM. Which also explains why it only accepts a single CPU socket. This allows cheaper cost per server for companies who need additional server o/s's but without the need for full on server. If an SMB only needed was to run File server inside a VM Or even a RRAS, foundation would be a perfect and cheap way of doing that.

Rarely would you ever need to use more than 8GB inside a VM. If you did your using something specialized, IIS, Sharepoint, SQL, exchange, etc...

Now this is getting interesting -- I had been umder the impression that WHS2011, SBS2011, & SBS-E2011 were all based on 2008R2 Standard and SBS & SBS-E could access 32GB RAM http://www.microsoft...quirements.aspx -- what did I miss on their family tree? Why base WHS on foundation? and SBS & E on Standard?

Thanks for the background Info!

Note: the 8GB max is noted here http://en.wikipedia....ome_Server_2011 the difference between Foundation & Standard RAM requirements is here http://www.microsoft...quirements.aspx
(edited again Fri Morning to remove the effects of too much wine last night )

[no-control]

AFAIK WHS2011, WSS2011-E and SBS-E only support 8GB and are based on foundation. SBS2011 is based on the 08R2 STD and supports 32gb

[Joe_Miner]

AFAIK means ???? Why aren't they all based on Standard?

Edited by Joe_Miner, 29 August 2011 - 11:24 PM.

[jmwills]

As Far As I Know............

[pcdoc]

This is right of the Microsoft documentation:

• Windows Home Server 2011 is a 64-bit only operating system
• You can install the server software either manually or unattended, although in the vast majority of cases it will come pre-installed on OEM hardware
• System requirements:
  
  • CPU Socket (1 Socket Max)
    
  • 1 - 1.4 GHz (64-bit processor) or faster for single core
  • 1 - 1.3 GHz or faster for multi-core
• Memory (RAM)
  
  • Min - 2 GB
  • Max – 8 GB
• Storage
  
  • At least one 160 GB (or larger) hard drive for OS and initial data drive
  • Additional hard disks may be included to store data