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#21 Darkk

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 09:21 PM

I just looked at the pics of ML310e Gen8 v2 on the website and noticed the two PSU with small fans.  Those things are going to be noisy and probably can't be adjusted.

 

Just giving you heads up.



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Posted 03 April 2016 - 08:08 AM

I just looked at the pics of ML310e Gen8 v2 on the website and noticed the two PSU with small fans.  Those things are going to be noisy and probably can't be adjusted.

 

Just giving you heads up.

 

That is only if you get the hot-swap power supplies, which are in the Build-To-Order configurations.

 

The standard power supply is similar to the ML10 v2.  Note that the ML30 Gen9, like the ML310e Gen8 v2 also offers the dual (redundant) hot-swap power supply configuration, but most configurations come with the standard.

 

In that way, the ML30 Gen9 and ML310e Gen8 v2 are actually quite versatile; their configuration ranges from small business into smaller enterprise deployments, all dependent on needs.  For the normal home server user though, the single (non-hotswap) power supply is more than enough.  Most of us do not need a hot-swap configuration for our power supplies either, though the Gen8 hotswap units can be found for relatively reasonable prices on eBay.  I found no need (or desire) to add them to my server.

 

I would add comparative images, but I'm still not being allowed to put images into posts for some reason, like I used to.


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Posted 03 April 2016 - 04:14 PM

 

I would add comparative images, but I'm still not being allowed to put images into posts for some reason, like I used to.

 

Me too. I wonder why a moderator or Dave or someone hasn't commented on this yet? 


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Posted 03 April 2016 - 05:20 PM

How are you trying to post pictures? I use imageshack.us.

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Posted 03 April 2016 - 06:58 PM

I'm trying even to link URLs.  I just get that the image format is not supported.  It's never about the link.

 

I've done drag-and-drop, same issue.  Image shows until I try to post.  Be it JPG or PNG,  Heck, I'd do a screenshot of it, but, well...you know.

 

I work with the exact same forum software somewhere else (well, post on it) and no issues.  My strong suspicion is that it's a permissions issue; as a moderator SD, it might not be an issue for you.


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Posted 03 April 2016 - 08:23 PM

Me too. I wonder why a moderator or Dave or someone hasn't commented on this yet? 

Dave looked at this a few weeks ago and found a permissions issue.  I think he thought that fixed the issue.  He will need to look further.

 

Here is an image from a URL

385358_508409089208376_1038862858_a.jpg

 

I also tried a drag and drop (which I never do anyways) and it won't allow it.  It shows the image but it won't save it (or post it).  I have a thought on why this may be happening but I will have to dig around.


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Posted 04 April 2016 - 06:52 AM

Dave looked at this a few weeks ago and found a permissions issue.  I think he thought that fixed the issue.  He will need to look further.

 

Here is an image from a URL

385358_508409089208376_1038862858_a.jpg

 

I also tried a drag and drop (which I never do anyways) and it won't allow it.  It shows the image but it won't save it (or post it).  I have a thought on why this may be happening but I will have to dig around.

 

Thanks for the reply. We'll keep our eyes out for a fix :)


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Posted 12 April 2016 - 11:34 AM

One additional note to add for ML10 v2 people.

 

If you are willing to lose 5.25" bays, HP offers an LFF drive-enablement kit, HP Part # 8122480-B21 .

 

This will convert your top two 5.25" bays into a kit that holds 6 LFF (2.5") drives.  A quick price check showed it at about $55USD.

 

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This leads to a couple of interesting notes:

 

1)  Clearly, this means there's an oversight of some sort in HP's QuickSpecs about RAID controller support, because the B120i controller does not support six drives.  Also note this specified in the QuickSpecs:

 

NOTE:  Supports RAID 0/1/10 only. No FBWC support. For FBWC, a standup Smart Array Controller card must be configured.

 

Admittedly, that's boilerplate language for the B120i controller (and is also likely found in the Microserver Gen8 and ML310e Gen8 v2 documentation), but it stands to reason another controller must be used, and that HP (whether you as an enthusiast are going to or not, that's another matter) would prefer you use one of their controllers.

 

2)  Personally, I think you're way better off having the best of most worlds and getting a 4 x 2.5" IcyDock.  It fits in a single 3.5" bay, letting you keep the optical drive.  And, if you get the ToughArmor version, you can fit slightly larger height drives; Western Digital makes WD Reds in a 1TB 2.5" form-factor, and Velociraptors in 600GB/1TB models, also in the same form factor; I used two 80GB 2.5" Velociraptors in RAID-0 in my N40L-N54L in their slim-optical/2 x 2.5" ToughArmor model when I had them.

 

Whether this changes your mind on anything, tough call.  The part number is listed as specific to the ML10 v2 (not to say you wouldn't find it might fit in the ML310e or the ML30).  But, it's a noteworthy mention.


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Posted 15 April 2016 - 02:00 AM

Excellent post :D took me a while to read the post due to so many references in different places but after reading the 3rd time it's clear to me I'm going to upgrade my Microserver Gen 8 to the ML310e v2 due to it using v3 processor I also have many available to me at work for personal upgrades due to EOL equipment laying around and already have 16gb DDR3 so will be a cheap upgrade with huge benefits.



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Posted 25 June 2016 - 07:43 AM

Hello this is my first post.  Excellent information.  I have one comment/question.....as a long time HP server user, this ML10 v2 is the first server I've seen that requires you to lock the case under normal operation.  In other words as far as I can tell you can't remove the key from the lock in the unlocked position.  It's not a terribly big deal but if the key ever was lost that would be a major pita. 



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Posted 02 July 2016 - 06:48 PM

Hello this is my first post.  Excellent information.  I have one comment/question.....as a long time HP server user, this ML10 v2 is the first server I've seen that requires you to lock the case under normal operation.  In other words as far as I can tell you can't remove the key from the lock in the unlocked position.  It's not a terribly big deal but if the key ever was lost that would be a major pita. 

 

As far as I know, the case operation is identical for all three servers, as the case (aside from the minor front panel color/port changes) is identical.


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Posted 18 August 2016 - 07:08 AM

Hello this is my first post.  Excellent information.  I have one comment/question.....as a long time HP server user, this ML10 v2 is the first server I've seen that requires you to lock the case under normal operation.  In other words as far as I can tell you can't remove the key from the lock in the unlocked position.  It's not a terribly big deal but if the key ever was lost that would be a major pita. 

The lock can be fixed with a screwdriver..  If you take the door off when it is locked and rotate the locking mechanism 180 degrees you can have it "locked" but not actually locked.

 

There was a deal at Newegg on the HP ML10v2 with the i3-4150 CPU, 8GB of RAM, 500GB HDD and a free iStarUSA 2 x 5.25" to 3 x 3.5" SAS/SATA Trayless Hot-Swap Cage.  The cage is normally $72 and the whole deal was $213 out the door.  The same ML10v2 is now $259.  I picked one up to replace my aging N36L and it's working out really well, very fast compared to what I was used to.

 

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